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@Aidan in HCMC聽 Go find the local UBND rep for the ward. He/she will know who owns it, and it there is any doubt, you can ask him to check with the provincial UBND Land Registry.

Bear in mind the fact that foreigners cannot put their names on the red book for land unless they are married. Do not trust any paper records that are not issued by the Land Registry.聽 That means you must get he red book issued before you pay money.聽 And do not trust promises of "we'll return your deposit". My VN ex got screwed like that.聽

First thing to ask is how long the seller you are dealing with has had the land. There is a thing called "峄�y quy峄乶", a person buys land, then onsells it because they dont want to do the paperwork and make a quick sale.

@Expat42inVN

Thank you, Expat42inVN. He does, indeed, want to do cash with written receipt of payment.

Made me feel less than comfortable. I'll check with the local office and see if they are able to help.

@colinoscapee

Thank you, sir.

According to some of the neighbours, he has "owned" the land for many years.

As suggested by Expat42inVN, I'll check with relevant authorities and report back (perhaps today if I can drag my lazy arse out of the house).

@colinoscapee
Thank you, sir.
According to some of the neighbours, he has "owned" the land for many years.
As suggested by Expat42inVN, I'll check with relevant authorities and report back (perhaps today if I can drag my lazy arse out of the house).
-@Aidan in HCMC

Whenever we buy land the first port of call is the UBND to clarify that the person actually owns it.

My inlaws have been waiting years for the paperwork on their land. If they pay money under the table it will be done in a few months, no coffee money, no quick result.

@colinoscapee

Any idea how many kilograms of coffee they might need to perk (percolate) things up?

@colinoscapee
Any idea how many kilograms of coffee they might need to perk (percolate) things up?
-@Aidan in HCMC

How long is a piece of string. Many variables, location, price, how greedy they are and do they know you are involved.

The guy near my inlaws paid about 50 million on a block of land worth 3 billion.in a farming community.

Looks like it will be tomorrow before I visit the UBND office.

I forgot that I absolutely just had to go look at all those fabulous, cute women's shoes on sale at a whopping 20% off selling at her friend's shop. (sarc & sigh)

My understanding FWIW: If the seller does not have the pink book, someone else holds it, and that means either

(a) proper paperwork was never recorded

(b) the seller is a crook or at least taking usual Vietnamese shortcuts

(c) there was a sale but the title has not passed yet from the holder to the seller; paperwork is in transition somewhere.

So who do you give your money to?

In my wife's family house case:

They have paperwork giving them rights to the land, I don't know what that is called, a deed in the US.

The pink book describes the house. When we knocked down the 1 story house and rebuilt a 4 story house, they had to get a new pink book.聽 The hired a fixer, he wasted over a year before they fired him and got their 10milion back. Then they hired a lawyer, who took another year+, but was successful. They got the book recorded in the proper names.

Both those guys promised a few months. Thu thinks the first delay was because the fixer was a crook and incompetent. She attributes most of the second delay to covid.

Postponed my visit to UBND until Monday. I'll report back the process/results then.

Visited the local UBND today. I need an interpreter. I brought with me two English speaking VN, who were summarily shoo'ed away. When I started to object, both pleaded with me not to upset the "officer".

I have seen this many times, how locals are intimidated by someone behind a desk with an ounce of power.

When I return with an interpreter, I will update all on my progress.

Frustrating

Visited the local UBND today. I need an interpreter. I brought with me two English speaking VN, who were summarily shoo'ed away. When I started to object, both pleaded with me not to upset the "officer".
I have seen this many times, how locals are intimidated by someone behind a desk with an ounce of power.
When I return with an interpreter, I will update all on my progress.
Frustrating
-@Aidan in HCMC

I wouldnt be showing my face at the UBND, get your wife/gf to go. The attitude towards non-vietnamese by these non-important pissants is deplorable.

Visited the local UBND today. I need an interpreter. I brought with me two English speaking VN, who were summarily shoo'ed away. When I started to object, both pleaded with me not to upset the "officer".
I have seen this many times, how locals are intimidated by someone behind a desk with an ounce of power.
When I return with an interpreter, I will update all on my progress.
Frustrating
-@Aidan in HCMC
I wouldnt be showing my face at the UBND, get your wife/gf to go. The attitude towards non-vietnamese by these non-important pissants is deplorable.
-@colinoscapee

Mr. C you forgot to add NON-EDUCATED.

Rick

Visited the local UBND today. I need an interpreter. I brought with me two English speaking VN, who were summarily shoo'ed away. When I started to object, both pleaded with me not to upset the "officer".
I have seen this many times, how locals are intimidated by someone behind a desk with an ounce of power.
When I return with an interpreter, I will update all on my progress.
Frustrating
-@Aidan in HCMC
I wouldnt be showing my face at the UBND, get your wife/gf to go. The attitude towards non-vietnamese by these non-important pissants is deplorable.
-@colinoscapee
Mr. C you forgot to add NON-EDUCATED.

Rick
-@Budman1

Sorry about that Rick, I had numerous vocab for these lowlifes, but could only use a few.

Mr. C you forgot to add NON-EDUCATED.

Rick
-@Budman1

Oh, they have a degree. A PEDIGREE.

I think most got their position based upon whose child they are, and/or how much they paid to get the job.

(Not sure what's up with the reply/edit function)

@colinoscapee

was one of the two who came with me. I told her later that, had she had a tail, that it would have been tucked down so low that it would have been in front of her.

She knows I don't react well to being treated rudely, and has seen me in action a couple of times. She has also seen that by my being insistent, that each and every time the "official" has always acquiesced.

It's obvious, to me anyway, that these gov't workers are not used to push-back. Because we had a third party in tow today (a neighbour), I grudgingly retreated.

BUT, with an interpreter, I'm expecting different results.</p>

(Not sure what's up with the reply/edit function)
@colinoscapee

was one of the two who came with me. I told her later that, had she had a tail, that it would have been tucked down so low that it would have been in front of her.

She knows I don't react well to being treated rudely, and has seen me in action a couple of times. She has also seen that by my being insistent, that each and every time the "official" has always acquiesced.

It's obvious, to me anyway, that these gov't workers are not used to push-back. Because we had a third party in tow today (a neighbour), I grudgingly retreated.
BUT, with an interpreter, I'm expecting different results.</p>
-@Aidan in HCMC

Having bought聽 a dozen blocks of land over the last 6-years, I would strongly advise you to not show your face. Its up to you, but I have never shown my face at the UBND ,Notary office or when buying. Its just not worth the hassle. My wife just said the same thing.