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stefanvienna83

Hello,

My name is Stefan, 41 years old and originally from Austria. I have been living in Mexico with my wife Claudia (30, from Slovakia) for 1.5 years with minor interruptions. We returned to Mexico after the birth of our daughter Madeline in November 2023.


Although we are still convinced that it was the right step to leave Europe and we love Mexico and especially the climate and the people very much, we have not yet found what we are looking for and do not feel that we are in the right place. Therefore we are now visiting Colombia for 6 weeks and based on our experiences and our feeling we will make a decision.


In general, we would like to live in a community or co-living complex where people with similar ideas (independence from the state, more freedom for our children) pursue the same goals (to live as self-sufficiently as possible, community garden etc.), according to the old values and virtues (respect, integrity).


However, as this takes a long time to find the right people and land (and the clock is ticking!), our alternative would be to find a nice secluded plot of land and build our paradise there and possibly grow over time.


We love spending time in nature and enjoy every second with our daughter. We are looking forward to learning more about the country and meeting as many new and interesting people as possible.

mtbe

I see these posts of people looking for similar social groups in Colombia.


I've only been here 4 years and while I know of some 'hippies' (for lack of a better word), I know of no such groups that live together.  Perhaps others on this forum do.


Your statement to live with old values and virtues (respect, integrity) will be hard found in Colombia.  There is a saying: no dar papaya....perhaps it's similar in Mexico.  But it is hard to trust Colombians in general.


Independence from the state will also be hard found.  They were really strict during Covid, for example.  Permits for house construction take a long time.  Permits for water source (if you're looking to live in the country...'off grid') can take several months, if not a year.  Permits for pozo septicos took us 3 years (we built one anyway...and got permit later).

PhilCo58

I agree with mtbe, I don't recognize any of the things you want here in Colombia, and I've been here 12 years

OsageArcher

You may wish to investigate a place like Vilcabamba, Ecuador and its nearby countryside - it has a reputation, for expats, anyway, of being a free-thinking and open place with a back-to-nature "hippie" vibe.  In recent years the shine may have dulled to where it is no longer what it once was (if ever it was), but it may be worth checking out.


In general there is no paradise on Earth, and if there is, no one is going to tell you where it is for fear it will be destroyed, as all the "paradises" are sooner or later...

mtbe

Was in Vilcabamba a few years ago.  The town has changed to cater to the immigrants flocking there.  Definitely the 'hippie' vibe, but now with various restaurants...and the locals disappointed.

ChineduOpara

Consider Paraguay instead. That's where I'm looking to go. Colombia doesn't seem that healthy for folks like me (I've been here over 16 months)

nico peligro

@ChineduOpara There was another long term Colombian  expat on the other site who was seriously looking at Paraguay to relocate.


Being a mountain man, not my cup of tea to live.



Flat, hot  muggy, remote..like the Llanos in Colombia and Venezuela.


Had a very violent history as well, Stroesner and pre -Stroesner during the war with Argentina,Brazil and Bolivia that wiped out one third of their population.


I would go there to see Iguazú falls though.

ChineduOpara

@nico peligro Well, Colombia had a very violent history as well, yeah? Same as Nigeria, USA, England, China, etc. Almost all nations on Earth had a violent history at one point or another.


The real question is, does the target country STILL have a real, legitimate risk of erupting into violence again within the next 40 years? Cuz THAT would be a good reason to not at least try living in the target country...

nico peligro

Paraguay sounds too boring for me.


The comment on its history was just a side comment.

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