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@abthree

I am unclear what you mean by the "policy of the RF to avoid double taxation". Do you mean taxation of income in both US and Brazil, as in US taxes Brazil income which has already been taxed in Brazil and vice versa?

聽 聽 06/24/23 @abthreeI am unclear what you mean by the "policy of the RF to avoid double taxation". Do you mean taxation of income in both US and Brazil, as in US taxes Brazil income which has already been taxed in Brazil and vice versa?聽 聽 聽 聽 聽-@sjpetzold

Yes. 馃愤馃徎聽 In the absence of a tax treaty there's some double taxation, but it seems to be reduced.

There a new tax law in Brazil just passed in 2024. They are going to tax all your investment all over the world. I put up a disscussion in this group explaining the new law. it anywhere from 8% to 15% on any profits you make if you are a resident or citizen. Example if you sell a property outside of Brazil they will tax you on the profit 15%. Here a web this explains it.

@abthree

Good evening abthree! I am a new resident in Brasil from Canada and am investing in crypto. I also am looking for a good accountant that deals with crypto law and tax implications. Would you mind sharing the name of your Brazilian accountant. I hope he speaks English. Thank you for all of your insight!

There a new tax law in Brazil just passed in 2024. They are going to tax all your investment all over the world. I put up a disscussion in this group explaining the new law. it anywhere from 8% to 15% on any profits you make if you are a resident or citizen. Example if you sell a property outside of Brazil they will tax you on the profit 15%. Here a web this explains it. - @NewBrazil

Link is to a law firm.

12/13/24聽 Link is to a law firm. - @alan279

It's an informational article, not a business solicitation.

@NewBrazil

My dear departed mother use to say, 鈥淭HERE IS NO UTOPIA 馃ぃ鈥�.

And how exactly is Brazil going to find out what you are doing in your home country if the only income that you show is coming from the US Social Security administration?

@Robert Laney Do you have a CPF?? This is they way Brazil follow what you spend. If you have a bank account in Brazil they will see your SSI being deposited. So yes they may not know how much savings you have in the US. But they will know how much you are spending and deposit. You will need to pay taxes.

12/13/24 @abthree
Good evening abthree! I am a new resident in Brasil from Canada and am investing in crypto. I also am looking for a good accountant that deals with crypto law and tax implications. Would you mind sharing the name of your Brazilian accountant. I hope he speaks English. Thank you for all of your insight! - @scottym

Welcome.聽 I'm pretty sure that she doesn't know anything about crypto and I doubt very much that she speaks English, so there probably would not be a good fit.

Dupe post.

You do not initially need an accountant in Brasil. Anyone can operate a calculator, even you.

Who you should be hiring is a tax lawyer. You are moving your entire life, including the financial one, to the other side of the world into a country that has a myriad of complex and ever changing tax laws, all the while still having to negotiate those of your previous residence. Do you have multiple degrees in Portuguese universities on this subject ? I don't.

Someone with a nominal income and assets, or even moreso, significant ones, should be engaging a professional multilingual international specialist with the track record and credentials, as well as a blue chip client base, versus "Acerola the Acontador" located in the subloja above a churrascaria.

For someone in the nominal category perhaps a junior member of a firm will do. Normally these services are billed in blocks of prepaid hours. 10 hours @ R$1.000 is a good starting point for many, whereas others will need the services of someone requiring 50 hours @ R$2.000 upfront, or more.

FWIW you make your own bed.

@kolyaS122HSU

How do you find a competent attorney/accountant (or team?) for your particular country pairs?

Asking for a friend.

Dahblyou Dahblyou Dahblyou.......you know the thing.......heh.

You have a private message.

@kolyaS122HSU

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Has anyone who a resident had to produce a tax document when leaving Brazil. Even just for a visit back to the USA. Thank for responding

03/16/25 Has anyone who a resident had to produce a tax document when leaving Brazil. Even just for a visit back to the USA. Thank for responding - @NewBrazil

I never have, either leaving Brazil or coming back.聽 The only Brazilian tax document that I ever have to supply to anyone is a copy of my聽 most current Brazilian tax return to my bank shortly after its filed.

I recently noted that a certification that no federal taxes are currently owing, the "Certid茫o Negativa de D茅bitos Relativos aos Tributos Federais e 脿 D铆vida Ativa da Uni茫o" is available to anyone with a CPF through the Receita Federal app.聽 I haven't tried to use it anywhere yet, but I've started keeping a current copy on file in my current year tax folder, just in case.

@abthree

Do you know where in the app I can find this? I just downloaded it but I don't see the correct thing to choose and ended up at a different website 馃槄

03/17/25聽 Do you know where in the app I can find this? I just downloaded it but I don't see the correct thing to choose and ended up at a different website 馃槄 - @*HernameisRio*

Good morning.聽 The RF app is integrated with gov.br, so you'll need a gov.br account.聽 The RF app takes you there, and you can create your gov.br account by clicking on "criar" on the login page if you don't already have one.

Once you're in gov.br, it will automatically take you to a Receita Federal page with a menu with "Favorites" at the top, then:

Cart茫o CPF

Meu Imposto de Renda

Certid茫o Negativa

Atividades Econ么micas

Receita Sa煤de

Agendamentos

Empregados Dom茅sticos

Empresas

Processos

Notas Fiscais de Servi莽os

Select "Certid茫o Negativa" and follow the prompts,聽 You can download the cert to your phone and print it out if you have print-from-phone software; otherwise you can send it to your computer and print it from there.

Some other useful features:聽 "Meu Imposto de Renda" lets you review all of your past IR declarations; "Notas Fiscais de Servi莽o" will show you the Notas Fiscais you've received that are registered with the RF.聽 It shows me all the monthly NFs for my health insurance.