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Lotus Eater

I simply thought it was off topic though you obviously think it's important enough to raise here. I am a father also of 2 fine adult kids and neither they nor I had to worry about the issues you raised in Australia, maybe it's an American thing? Regardless nice you care about your children and their future.
Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl
It's not off-topic. It was what Trump and Vance were fighting for. No to biological men (unless they've fully transitioned) in women's spaces. No to biological men competing in women's sports. No to biologically male inmates in women's prisons.
I have nothing against transmen or transwomen. What I'm against is when a biological man cheats and abuses women by identifying as a woman, and women are prevented to say anything against it. - @FilAmericanMom

Agreed. But what do you think about a womans right to an abortion FAM? Just curious.

bigpearl

Understand FAM and a fair and correct call but I would be more worried about pedophiles subtly operating within the legal system,,,,, they were my concern when my kids were growing up, one has to wonder some of the picks for the Trump administration that have been raised with regards to pedophilia as well as other transgressions.

I went through that when my son was 14 but that is another sad story but he was never touched, only grooming. There are some sickos around and where you least expect. Sorry members to go off topic.


Cheers, Steve.   

Fred

Understand FAM and a fair and correct call but I would be more worried about pedophiles subtly operating within the legal system,,,,, they were my concern when my kids were growing up, one has to wonder some of the picks for the Trump administration that have been raised with regards to pedophilia as well as other transgressions.
I went through that when my son was 14 but that is another sad story but he was never touched, only grooming. There are some sickos around and where you least expect. Sorry members to go off topic.
Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

or as part of government




Bad, isn't it?

danfinn

Regarding your Good Jobs First citation (the site):

"@Fred

I've seen this before. Sites with an interest in any given political position miss out critical information with the hope their readers are too dumb to see the lie by omission"


Fred:


Are your readers too dumb to see the lies in you site  by omission? This is basically a site for a super-leftist front organization that believes in "equity", not "equality", an old communist concept adopted by liberal progressives today.


FRED'S GOOD JOBS FIRST CITATION. ... ABOUT

"Racial Equity and Economic Development

Economic development tools can promote racial equity and other forms of social justice. But too often they merely enrich large, wealthy corporations and politically connected individuals. That’s because subsidies disproportionately benefit large corporations, and because most corporate shares are held by wealthy white people.


These injustices are revealed in multiple ways in our work when we apply a racial equity lens to economic development. Our studies, for instance, document how school districts comprised of low-income students of color lose the most to corporate tax breaks and how subsidies fund suburban sprawl that moves jobs out of communities of color.


Addressing these problems, we have for more than 20 years been proposing policy reforms to reverse these harms and drive reinvestment to communities most harmed by previous exclusionary practices.

So you support equity (common outcome for all) over equal opportunity for all! That is the purpose of your site and although it purports to provide  undefined subsidies of some sort to HD and other companies, yes I would be happy ending subsidies IF THEY EXIST and I believe Mush, Vivak and Trump would oppose them too.

Enzyte Bob

bigpearl said. . .  .Bob maybe you should clarify your brain and try to stay on topic, wandering off like a lost sheep is not a good look.

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Your answer is a good way of avoiding the question. You have Kamala Harris Syndrome, she never answered questions either.


Staying on topic? your a good one to preach that.

bigpearl

Get a life Bob. Run up stairs and have a hot shower.


I don't see any point in your question/s as they are somewhat irrelevant to the topic. If you have a bitch with me start a new topic if you have any gonads, send me a private MSG with your gripe and stop muddying the topic.


As for staying on topic? The pot calling the kettle black.


Cheers, Steve.

Enzyte Bob

Lotus Eater said . . . . But what do you think about a womans right to an abortion FAM? Just curious.

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You are trying to build upon a Trump misconception, he said he is not against abortions and said he would never outlaw it. He is not trying to control women's bodies.The supreme court moved the issue of abortion back to each state. Each state reflects the values of it's citizens. State's have different laws regarding abortions.


Our country is the "United"---------States" of America. To simplify it, each state could be considered an independent country. They are bound together by the Federal Government originally for mutual protection.


What's legal in one state may not be legal in another.


You are now educated.


Enzyte Bob

big pearl said. . . . Get a life Bob. Run up stairs and have a hot shower.
I don't see any point in your question/s as they are somewhat irrelevant to the topic. If you have a bitch with me start a new topic if you have any gonads, send me a private MSG with your gripe and stop muddying the topic.

As for staying on topic? The pot calling the kettle black.

***

I have gonads, you and your partner has gonads, that's fine with me. Both you and your partner should not visit Fred in Indonesia, if you do, don't go to tall buildings.

bigpearl

Sad. Have another drink Bob. You are full of sh1t. Safer to engage with a mad man in the early morning while he is still sleeping.


Cheers, Steve.

danfinn

I just wonder, how do all the extremist MAGA guys on here feel about Trump's cabinet picks so far, personally I think he made a big mistake choosing Marco Rubio as Secretary of State, that is a far too sensible an appointment. Although he is an extreme right winger and a danger to America, he doesn't really fit in with the rest of the other crazies he has chosen to run his government. I think Elon Musk is going to have trouble keeping all of these nutters in line while Donald J. is spending his time on the golf course. Looking seriously at the rest of his cabinet picks I don't think I would have been really shocked if he had chosen Donald Duck as Secretary of State. Hahahaha. - @FindlayMacD

It is so interesting to hear foreigners' opinions on US elections. They never talk about politics in their own countries and I seriously wonder why.(actually I know why and cannot blame them lol)  Is it that their politics are boring to the rest of the world, or insignificant? Are they ashamed that their politicians just don't matter to us? America is not the biggest country in the world and China apparently has the biggest economy and EU is similar in size to us while Great Britain still goes back and forth between USA and EU, not sure about who to join politically and economically. Foreigners here warn us that China had the largest military, economy, best social system blah blah blah, yet nobody here comments on EU, AU-NZ or UK elections, or the Chinese Premier's hold on dictatorship, instead  they just mostly complain and bitch about whatever the majority of US voters have decided. Do I sense a bit of envy? "No" They will certsinly respond haha. I for one am very FLATTERED about this and it gives my vote an overwhelming sense of importance. If it weren't for you guys, hell. I might as well be wasting my vote in the UK, AU NZ or Brussels (but not China coz nobody votes there 😔). Whether or not you consider this election a negative as most forum foreigners here do,, i (not speaking for other American here) thank you for your non-support as you make us even more proud as Trump supporters ðŸ‘

FilAmericanMom

We have a choice of 5 bathrooms here Bob but we generally use the Ensuite like you do, should we label all the bathrooms? Small minded rings a bell.
Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

Nice! My house is not as fabulous as your house by the beach, I'm sure. Us, we can only imagine being by the beach, while we're having breakfast on the terrace, looking out to the vacant lots imagining that they're the ocean. LOL.

Lotus Eater

@FilAmericanMom


I remember you saying your place is in Quezon city. Near the Alli Mall or perhaps the Araneta Coliseum? Seen a few concerts there.

Morgacj200424

@Enzyte Bob


Love it! Can’t wait

Morgacj200424

@Enzyte Bob


Exactly. Trump’s position all along has been to leave it up to the individual states.  Interestingly enough there have been more abortions since the Supreme Court’s ruling.  As a practicing Catholic I am against abortion (except to save the life of the mother) but agree it’s best left up to each states voters.

Lotus Eater

Lotus Eater said . . . . But what do you think about a womans right to an abortion FAM? Just curious.
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You are trying to build upon a Trump misconception, he said he is not against abortions and said he would never outlaw it. He is not trying to control women's bodies.The supreme court moved the issue of abortion back to each state. Each state reflects the values of it's citizens. State's have different laws regarding abortions.
Our country is the "United"---------States" of America. To simplify it, each state could be considered an independent country. They are bound together by the Federal Government originally for mutual protection.

What's legal in one state may not be legal in another.

You are now educated.

- @Enzyte Bob



Didn't realise you were FAM's spokesperson Bob 🤔

Morgacj200424

@danfinn


I think Trump is doing just fine with his cabinet picks. He is taking his time and the process is so far going smoothly.

Lotus Eater

@Enzyte Bob
Exactly. Trump’s position all along has been to leave it up to the individual states. Interestingly enough there have been more abortions since the Supreme Court’s ruling. As a practicing Catholic I am against abortion (except to save the life of the mother) but agree it’s best left up to each states voters. - @Morgacj200424

"As a practicing Catholic I am against abortion"


Yeah we figured that Morg. Tks for dropping by.

danfinn

Each to their own Dan, enjoy the next 4 years.
Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

Thanks Steve. 12 years when you include JD Vance.

Fred

@Enzyte Bob
Exactly. Trump’s position all along has been to leave it up to the individual states. Interestingly enough there have been more abortions since the Supreme Court’s ruling. As a practicing Catholic I am against abortion (except to save the life of the mother) but agree it’s best left up to each states voters. - @Morgacj200424

I believe it's up to the individual.

Why should anyone push their religious bent onto people who hold differing points of view?

bigpearl

Only time will tell Dan.

Yes Australian politics are pretty boring, the left, the right and their policies,,,,,, unlike the US from both parties, I have a plan or we will fix that and Aussies won't take that sh1t, present your policies if you want my vote and we will hold you to your promises,,,,,,,, most times, yes the sensationalism of US politics certainly attracts attention as it in reality affects the world.

Though a laugh and fun at times and disbelief often how your system works it seems to have been successful for nearly 250 years and as we say the people spoke and on we go.

As an old retired fart it's simply amusing to watch,,,,,,, all countries.


Cheers, Steve. 

Enzyte Bob

Morgacj200424 said. . . . Interestingly enough there have been more abortions since the Supreme Court’s ruling. As a practicing Catholic I am against abortion (except to save the life of the mother) but agree it’s best left up to each states voters.  "As a practicing Catholic I am against abortion"

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Lotus Eater replied....Yeah we figured that Morg. Tks for dropping by.

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(1) When I was an young adult the only abortions available were called back alley abortions. So I was careful and used protection as not wanting to be a father or being financially responsible for a child I would never know.


(2) When abortions were legal, I still maintained my feelings about abortions not being a part of my life.


(3) Later in life, I disagreed with the idea that abortions should be used as birth control, which appears some irresponsible people were doing. I thought Tax Money should not pay for abortions, especially with so many other ways to prevent pregnancies. I was not against abortions, but I would never be the cause of an abortion.


(4) Much later in life I thought I would not want to have my child aborted or would I want my child to be raised by a single mother. So I was careful so it didn't happen.


(5) So throughout my life my thoughts about abortions changed.


(6) Moving to the Philippines so many single mothers. So many careless Expats, 30 or 40 older than their children. Some Expats come to the Philippines for a Sexcation and are irresponsible and really don't care if they have a child and never have a wonder.


(7) Abortions change with your beliefs over the years. It depends on what you believe when that life inside the womb is a person. When and if it's a person depends on your beliefs, morality, religion or guilt about killing a life.


(7) When it comes to live births I believe it's murder if they are left to die.

FilAmericanMom

I have to admit, I used to have TDS. I wasn't aware I had it because, like a pill, I was taking CNN and MSNBC on a regular basis. Then I chanced upon a youtube channel called California Insider, and one inquiry led to another Then I realized I had TDS, even before it was called that. At first, my husband and I were in denial we because we did not want to alienate ourselves from family and friends who up to now have TDS. But when we weaned off CNN and MSNBC, things became clearer and clearer. We realized were duped.


Trump did not tell his supporters to attack the Capitol. He actually said the opposite. The media cut and snipped parts of his speech to create a narrative that Trump encouraged his supporters to attack. A different set of people attacked. And Pelosi could have prevented people from storming the Capitol, but didn't. And we learned about this three years later the incident.


America is facing a lot of issues that need to be fixed. I don't think that Kamala is the best person for the job of fixing those issues, since those issues came up when she was, and still is, in office. She could have already enacted the policies she proposed. But she didn't. And I think it's because she can't. So even if she wins, I think she still can't enact those policies.


I say give Trump a chance. The guy did dodge a bullet, which was unbelievable, a little short of divine intervention. I like his policies better than Kamala's. But they're not perfect. Let's wait and see till January 20, 2026, to determine whether his policies worked.

FilAmericanMom

@FilAmericanMom
I remember you saying your place is in Quezon city. Near the Alli Mall or perhaps the Araneta Coliseum? Seen a few concerts there. - @Lotus Eater

Our place is in Quezon City. But nowhere near Araneta Coliseum in Cubao. We're in the Fairview area, near the La Mesa Watershed. It's quieter and cleaner here compared to Cubao.

Aidan in HCMC

@FilAmericanMom

(Link, Rumble 1:06)

I remember watching this in Saigon. Bookmarked it, but two days later...

It's been resurrected.

danfinn

@Fred

I believe it's up to the individual.

Why should anyone push their religious bent onto people who hold differing points of view?


Just curious: Do you believe killing the baby a few minutes after it is born should be up.to the individual? That is legal in a few states like Virginia.. Personally I call that murder and that is the extreme extent that the left wing in the US has taken this thing.

danfinn

@bigpearl

Though a laugh and fun at times and disbelief often how your system works it seems to have been successful for nearly 250 years and as we say the people spoke and on we go.


As an old retired fart it's simply amusing to watch,,,,,,, all countries.

Cheers, Steve.

And if course I have no problem with others being amused at USA politics. There is some viral clip about NZ Moari indigenous people in the Parliament making primeval haka dancing over the white government attempting to balance the law to apply equally to all people and I must admit, it is amusing for me to watch, just as the viral clip presents it.. It goes to show that there is no absence of humorous politics in your area of Oceania. 😅


https colon slash slash edition.cnn.com/2024/11/15/world/video/new-zealand-parliament-haka-ldn-digvid

FilAmericanMom


Agreed. But what do you think about a womans right to an abortion FAM? Just curious.
- @Lotus Eater

A woman has the right to do what she wants with her body. Get a tattoo, a nose job, donate one of her kidneys, lose / gain weight, eat processed food, etc. But a fetus is not her body even though it's inside her body. It is someone else's body. It has its own DNA. It is alive. If a person or persons intentionally stop it from living, they're killing it. I do believe that day one in human development is not the day we were born, but the day we became a zygote with our own unique set of DNA. ("Zygote" sounds funny to me. I sometimes chuckle when I hear it in biology class. LOL.)

mugteck


Agreed. But what do you think about a womans right to an abortion FAM? Just curious.
- @Lotus Eater
A woman has the right to do what she wants with her body. Get a tattoo, a nose job, donate one of her kidneys, lose / gain weight, eat processed food, etc. But a fetus is not her body even though it's inside her body. It is someone else's body. It has its own DNA. It is alive. If a person or persons intentionally stop it from living, they're killing it. I do believe that day one in human development is not the day we were born, but the day we became a zygote with our own unique set of DNA. ("Zygote" sounds funny to me. I sometimes chuckle when I hear it in biology class. LOL.)
- @FilAmericanMom

She agrees with Trump that women should be punished for having an abortion.

FilAmericanMom


Agreed. But what do you think about a womans right to an abortion FAM? Just curious.
- @Lotus Eater
A woman has the right to do what she wants with her body. Get a tattoo, a nose job, donate one of her kidneys, lose / gain weight, eat processed food, etc. But a fetus is not her body even though it's inside her body. It is someone else's body. It has its own DNA. It is alive. If a person or persons intentionally stop it from living, they're killing it. I do believe that day one in human development is not the day we were born, but the day we became a zygote with our own unique set of DNA. ("Zygote" sounds funny to me. I sometimes chuckle when I hear it in biology class. LOL.)
- @FilAmericanMom
She agrees with Trump that women should be punished for having an abortion.
- @mugteck

Don't twist my words in order to push your TDS! Never did I mention that women should be punished for having an abortion. I replied to Lotus Eater regarding my belief on why an unwanted human being inside a woman's body should not be put to death.


Trump has left it with the states to have their own laws and punishments on abortions.


With regards to abortion, per se, I don't agree with Trump. He has three exceptions. I only have one: when the life of the mother is at risk.

mugteck

Is it TDS to quote Trump?

danfinn


Agreed. But what do you think about a womans right to an abortion FAM? Just curious.
- @Lotus Eater
A woman has the right to do what she wants with her body. Get a tattoo, a nose job, donate one of her kidneys, lose / gain weight, eat processed food, etc. But a fetus is not her body even though it's inside her body. It is someone else's body. It has its own DNA. It is alive. If a person or persons intentionally stop it from living, they're killing it. I do believe that day one in human development is not the day we were born, but the day we became a zygote with our own unique set of DNA. ("Zygote" sounds funny to me. I sometimes chuckle when I hear it in biology class. LOL.)
- @FilAmericanMom

Question: Relative to the Virginia's statute that permits a woman with her doctor to terminate a living baby shortly after birth, do they morally have the right to kill that baby?

Fred

@Fred
I believe it's up to the individual.
Why should anyone push their religious bent onto people who hold differing points of view?
Just curious: Do you believe killing the baby a few minutes after it is born should be up.to the individual? That is legal in a few states like Virginia.. Personally I call that murder and that is the extreme extent that the left wing in the US has taken this thing. - @danfinn

Please prove your claim is true by posting links from non-BS sites.



Posting conspiracy rubbish is really silly. You have the freedom to believe rubbish aimed at fools, but spreading it is really dodgy.

Enzyte Bob

danfinn asked a good Question: Relative to the Virginia's statute that permits a woman with her doctor to terminate a living baby shortly after birth, do they morally have the right to kill that baby?

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The way I look at it, if a woman wants to terminate her live birth, could that give her the right to terminate previous live live births? Same thing.


Terminating live births should be a crime, it's bad enough to terminate unborn people.

Fred

Question: Relative to the Virginia's statute that permits a woman with her doctor to terminate a living baby shortly after birth, do they morally have the right to kill that baby?
- @danfinn

Link to the law you mentioned, please.

I suggest you failing to do so is an admission of lying.

Fred

Is it TDS to quote Trump? - @mugteck

The sad and dangerous thing is people actually believe (or decide to believe) obvious lies.

A lying idiot is generally just a fairly harmless twit that you would avoid at work, but one with a big following of brain dead morons can be very dangerous.


I met one in a coffee shop a few months ago. All he did was ruin my relaxing coffee half hour. The same idiot with millions of morons backing him would be extremely nasty.

Fred

danfinn asked a good Question: Relative to the Virginia's statute that permits a woman with her doctor to terminate a living baby shortly after birth, do they morally have the right to kill that baby? ****The way I look at it, if a woman wants to terminate her live birth, could that give her the right to terminate previous live live births? Same thing.Terminating live births should be a crime, it's bad enough to terminate unborn people. - @Enzyte Bob

This is whyy Trump is so dangerous.

One trump fanboi posts a lie, then the next amplifies it in the hope idiots will believe the rubbish is true.

The way to show them up as liars is ask for evidence.

They either ignore it or tell the other person to find proof of somethingthat only exists in their limited capacity minds.

That or simply insult their way to a diversion in the hope everyone will forget.

FindlayMacD

@Enzyte Bob @danfinn

It is a crime, not only in Virginia but everywhere in America. This was just of the many lies Trump and Vance told during the election campaign and unfortunately people like you believed it.

Fred

danfinn asked a good Question: Relative to the Virginia's statute that permits a woman with her doctor to terminate a living baby shortly after birth, do they morally have the right to kill that baby?
****
The way I look at it, if a woman wants to terminate her live birth, could that give her the right to terminate previous live live births? Same thing.
Terminating live births should be a crime, it's bad enough to terminate unborn people. - @Enzyte Bob

Could I have your mother's email address, please?

Fred

@Enzyte Bob @danfinn
It is a crime, not only in Virginia but everywhere in America. This was just of the many lies Trump and Vance told during the election campaign and unfortunately people like you believed it. - @FindlayMacD

You don't believe that lie because your brain is working normally.

I suspect Trump wants to ban abortion in the hope brain damaged fetuses will grow up and vote for him.

That's likely to be the reason he wants the education department closed - the dumber the public, the greater his voter base.

Enzyte Bob

A Fetus is an unborn offspring developing in the Uterus, while a born Child is an infant who has emerged from the womb and is capable of independent existence.


What is independent existence? That child can breathe, eat and regulate body temperature independently, has a beating heart or has voluntary muscular movements. Their organs are fully developed and functional. Recognized as a person with rights and protection under the law.


Federal laws like the Born Alive Infants Protection Act explicitly recognizes the legal personhood of infants born alive.


[link under review]


Signed into law by President George Bush on Aug 5th, 2002


Some state laws often provide specific protection for newborns allowing parents to safely surrender unwanted infants.

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