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This may not be the case but It kind of sounds like you're trying to game the system by probably paying some girl to marry you to make this thing happen. From life experience in general I'd say if that's the case you are really setting yourself up for a lot of problems. Brazil is so complicated already that trying to circumvent the law is never a good idea. It's really hard to sneak through a system that is often run by crooks, they know all the games! Just saying...

Why swap one third world country of another third world country, where its more than likely "not" going to be accepted, by the people
i dont see any advantage of comming here to brazil

Hi Pete, some truth there but my sweetie and friends have spent a lot of time in India and I'm told Brazil is a picnic in comparison! People here at least use bathrooms! haha Seriously, it's pretty rugged over there.

Its Rugged here as well, but the difference India is a bussy place,and getting busser all the time, its the only country almost manufacturing the same as China, and the way things are going in the West your going to find that the West is going to push more and more work the Indias way

Bharat0007 wrote:

Hi, I am from India and have been to Brazil on Student visa in 2012 and made a GF there but came back before 2 months. I again tried for Student visa after few months but it was denied.
If I'm already married to an Indian women but also want to marry my Brazilian girlfriend and then want all three of us to live together in Brazil then how can I do this?
Is there any way or exception that this can be done legally or what should I do so that I can get married to Brazilian GF and then also invite the Indian wife to Brazil so that we all can live together forever as all three of us are fine to accept this and live together happily and peacefully?? 

Your intention & plan is to live in Brazil, so you want to marry your GF. And you will have Indian Wife too. Like you some men are marrying South American women to get entry into respective countries. 
Did you think well on this?

I think 'Mike in Sao Paulo' suggested you right.

I have dropped this idea and won't be going to Brazil anymore.

Oh I see. My only suggestion is - have good relation & live peacefully, anywhere in the World. Life is Delicate & Precious.

Mr James i saw all of your comments and expert advices and replies i must say its great but i wanna know Im planing to Travel to Brazil to adopt a child what do you know about it process and time pls help me, I am from Pakistan but currently living Philippine  with my Philipino wife in Manila, and we would like to adopt a baby from Brazil since my wife cannot be a mother anymore, Pls advice all the information you know about this matter i will appreciate it.

i think your going to find this more than impossible, unless you have lots and lots of money

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marriedman wrote:

Mr James i saw all of your comments and expert advices and replies i must say its great but i wanna know Im planing to Travel to Brazil to adopt a child what do you know about it process and time pls help me, I am from Pakistan but currently living Philippine  with my Philipino wife in Manila, and we would like to adopt a baby from Brazil since my wife cannot be a mother anymore, Pls advice all the information you know about this matter i will appreciate it.

Yes Mr James is no more.

Spanishpete told you the truth and it is risky too.

Adopting a child is a long and difficult process in many countries. Can I know the reason why you chose to adopt a child from Brazil, as you are from Pakistan and your spouse is from Philippines.

Update with regards to Appling for permanent residence.

I was due to leave the country on August 5 but because my appointment with the FP was not scheduled for the 14th due to no other dates being available.
I was first advised that would not be an issue and there would just be a penalty for the amount of days that I would be here illegally.
But attended my appointment and was told that I could not put the application in because I am in the country illegally.
I was advised by the federal police that I would have to leave the country within 10 days and go to a next door country just to prove that I have left the country and to get the stamp in my passport.  I was also given a protocol that would allow me to return.
The great part is that I just need the stamp in the passport so I can visit for an hour or less in one of these countries next to Brazil.

Was anyone aware of that procedure?!

Yes. It is an option for people that can afford it.

Ok...
I have a question and I hope I can get an answer from someone who has done this...

I am planning to marry my Brasileiro when I travel there for Christmas.  I am recently divorced and the divorce papers state that my name is changed to DDD.  My passport is in my old name (DDW), and I have no plans to change it immediately because I'd have to get a new visa to Brazil as well.  My passport expires in a couple of years anyway.

I am completing a procuração (sort of a power of attorney) so that his niece can do paperwork in my stead before I arrive.  What name should I use on the procuração?  The one on my passport (which is mentioned in the procuração) or the one on my divorce papers?

Brasileiro wants me to change my name with the marriage to DDdO.  How is all of this going to play out if I apply for permanent residency after we marry?  Will they put my brasileira name on my permanent visa or must it match my passport? Would I have time to get a new passport with new name for them to put the permanent visa in?

HOW DO I GET THROUGH ALL OF THESE STINKIN' NAME CHANGES WITHOUT RUNNING AFOUL OF HAVING DOCUMENTS THAT DON'T MATCH UP?

Honestly, I'd rather just stick with DDD and not change anything ever again!   

I think you're going to need a new passport. The US Consulate is requiring my new wife to get a new passport in her married name although her old passport is only a year old.

As far as getting married here is concerned, I think that will be in your unmarried name as well. You'll have to ask someone to either go to or call the local DPF unit that handles the issuance of permanent visas and find out what they say. I know that your Brazilian documents will reflect whatever is on your marriage documents, American or Brazilian.

Sooo... new divorced name (DDD) on procuração, get married, return to US, get new passport and new visa in new married name (DDdO), return to Brazil to start PR application with new passport? 

Also planning to apply for his PR here in US.  I think I'd better find a way to get rich, quick...Ìý

Thanks, Mike...

I would think that once you get a divorce. You name goes back to what it was and if you are going to get married here again for permanent residence. You will have to show your divorce certificate and get it translated but first must be authenticed by the Brazilian consulate in the city it was granted.
So when you go an apply to be married here. Your new certificate will have your new name and that's what the federal police will put on all documents. As per brasileiros.

I am currently going through the process after being divorced and married here now just applied for permanent residence lasted week

mococatx wrote:

Sooo... new divorced name (DDD) on procuração, get married, return to US, get new passport and new visa in new married name (DDdO), return to Brazil to start PR application with new passport? 

Also planning to apply for his PR here in US. I think I'd better find a way to get rich, quick...Ìý

Thanks, Mike...

...............Get rich quick,.............. dont come to Brazil unless your corrupt............LOL..........

You can get a new passport without losing any visa in the old one. You just carry both.  As far as Names matching for Documents in Brazil, they will all have to be the same. You will run into problems especially at the Cart[orio.  After you get permanency then you can just carry the New passport because you won`t need the visa .

Jim

I've been having a good time showing all the cashiers I can my new Brazilian ID. lol
Hey, look what I got recently!

mococatx wrote:

Sooo... new divorced name (DDD) on procuração, get married, return to US, get new passport and new visa in new married name (DDdO), return to Brazil to start PR application with new passport? 

Also planning to apply for his PR here in US.  I think I'd better find a way to get rich, quick...Ìý

Thanks, Mike...

You're welcome.

Honestly, the easiest (quickest and least paperwork intensive) thing to do is have him visit you and get married there in the US. Then go to the "local" Brazilian consulate in the US and register the marriage certificate together. You go visit Brazil on the same visa it sounds like you have now and get your RNE and CPF, based upon the (now translated and filed with a  local cartorio) US marriage documents while you're there. (About 60 days max). Then figure out where to go (as in where to live) from there.  Actually, I think the consulate in the US will issue you the RNE you need to come and go from Brazil as you please.

Hm.  I was told by the company that helped me get the visa in the first place that I would have to get a new visa because the difference in names would be a red flag.

So I've decided to use the new married name only for travel documents and for Brazilian documents.  Everything else in the US will be in my post-divorce (maiden) name.

Mike, I know that him coming here would be easier, but not easier to switch to doing at this point.  I'll mention it to him one more time though.  So are you saying, I could marry in Brazil, return to the US, change my name on my passport and then apply for PR through my local consulado?   They would then stamp my new passport?

Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice!

It will be. That's why I recommend getting married there in the US if possible. It'll be cheaper and easier (paperwork-wise) and quicker. As soon as you get married, get your tickets to come here and pay the extra for expedited passport processing with your new married name.

No matter what, your passport is going to have to reflect your new married name because your RNE will.

Yes. If you have your Brazilian marriage certificate you can can get your "Let me in and out when I want go" stuff there in the US. At least the passport stamp and a receipt to get your RNE (Brazilian ID card for foreigners) when you get here.

Note that ANYTHING you do here will require that US-issued documents be translated into Portuguese by a licensed "tradutor juramentada" (sworn translator) plus registered in a federal document the name of which I forget. This means your no more than 90 days old birth certificate and your no more than 90 days old divorce decree. If you get married in the US, you only need the birth certificate in Brazil, but will need the marriage certificate translated by a tradutor juramentada. These can, together, cost as much as $R700+ and then you have to register them with a local cartorio, and more. In the US, you might have to get them translated and won't have to register them with a cartorio nor with the federal register.

Yes, I've got the divorce decree apostile-ed, and I'm waiting on the apostille-ed birth certificate from the federal government because I was born to US citizens in Germany (4-6 weeks they say 🙄) and then I will FedEx all to my fiancé to take to the cartório.  Hoping everything is within that 90 day window.

As Mike stated getting married in the USA will be much less paperwork and documentation if you could possibly do it.

Jim

jland912 wrote:

As Mike stated getting married in the USA will be much less paperwork and documentation if you could possibly do it.

Jim

Well said that man,

Hello,
I am from India, and my boyfriend is Brazilian, and we are planning to get married next month. Lately , we found out that we need to hire an Official Interpreter for the marriage process, since I do not speak Portuguese, I am learning though. Does anyone know how much does it cost to hire an Official Interpreter in Sao Paulo ? Or it would be really helpful if some one could provide me the contact of an Interpreter.

Thanks,
Shivani

Official interpreter for what porpuse??  For translation of documents?

If a person does not speak fluent Portuguese they cannot properly understand what they are agreeing to in the civil marriage process, therefore they could later claim that they were coerced or forced into the marriage rather than understanding and willingly agreeing.  It's a legal thing.  They will require the services of a official translator to make sure that they understand everything correctly during the marriage ceremony.

Shivaji, your boyfriend should be the one to answer this question, if he lives there!

that's correct they required some that's not related to you to make sure you understand that the process is, etc.

I needed one also but my partner was able to get one for free because that person owns a english school in the city.

Good luck

A case want to sent to INTERPOL. After passing 3 months, it was not yet investigated. How long interpol take to investigate?

Shivani2605 wrote:

Hello,
I am from India, and my boyfriend is Brazilian, and we are planning to get married next month. Lately , we found out that we need to hire an Official Interpreter for the marriage process, since I do not speak Portuguese, I am learning though. Does anyone know how much does it cost to hire an Official Interpreter in Sao Paulo ? Or it would be really helpful if some one could provide me the contact of an Interpreter.

Thanks,
Shivani

Hi Shivani, Green Day!

Good to know that you are marrying a Brazilian.
1. Where you are marrying in India or in Brazil?
2. If you are marrying in Brazil, you need to have 'Birth Certificate', as without Birth Certificate you will not allowed to marry in Brazil.
3. Did your would be husband done the process at Marriage Registration  Office, he has to apply one month in advance to marriage date.
4. If you are marrying in India, you must translate your would be husband's documents & vice versa.
5. Let your would be husband do the needful - documents required for marriage & translation.

Does anyone know if a certificate of divorce from the state is acceptable as proof of divorce in Brazil?  I know it has to be apostilled and translated.  Just thinking of the cost of translating two pages as opposed to 11...🤔

Various translators have to charge various prices.

I'm not begrudging the translators their fees.  $618 here in the US for 11 pages, slightly more in Brazil.  But if a certificate and apostille is just as acceptable as an 11 page document, why pay more?  I could use the money for my husband's visa process.