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Investing money in term deposits in local banks .

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woody54

I have read that current interest rates in Indonesian banks is any where between %7 - %10 . On a Kitas Visa can I invest my money or is it just for Indonesian residents . Plus what rate does your return get taxed say in I invested $100.000 AUD to help with living costs as I will buy a 25 year leasehold plus I will have rental income from Australia . Thanks Geoff .

Fred

That's about a billion local - It'll get you 5.75% PA before tax in a BCA deposito account.
That's around 50 million per year, or 4 million per month before 20% tax.

In other words - not enough to live on but it'll keep you in sandwiches.

You can open an account and buy deposito (Timed deposits) on a KITAS.

woody54

Thanks Fred for your help . As well as $100,000 cash in term depositsÌý I will have $20,000 AUD per year on a rental property in Australia and I have found a great Villa in Canggu with a 25 year leasehold I will pay cash for . Then in ten years my pension will kick in so my annual income will be $40,0000 per year . I thought I would have enough to live on . Thanks Geoff .

Fred

The rental income comes to around 17 million per month - easily enough as long as you aren't too into partying.

As a guide, a lot of expat English teachers are on 11 million or so.
Local teachers start at 3 million.

Fred

I live on (Family of 4 with a maid) less than 10 million per month, meaning I save quite a lot and my bank manager shakes my hand when I wander in.

No boozing but I'm into food in a fat glutton sort of way.

woody54

Thanks Fred again for your advice and insight . To live on 10 million rp for a family 4 gives me a great guide to what I can afford and what standard of living I can have . I will be just living by myself and maybe my girlfriend will join me ?Ìý I don,t drink either Fred maybe 1 beer if I go out for dinner . I am mainly moving to Canggu or SeminyacÌý is to go surfing and have a relaxed lifestyle . I have worked hard enough and want to enjoy life more while I am still fit enough to go surfing . I know all about hiring a maid and other costs like a Kitas visa and medical insurance per year . As I was there just a few months ago for 2 weeks looking at villas to buy a leasehold . But my partner Nataliya go so scared because the first night we were at Mozzarela,s Restaurant in Seminyac having dinner andÌý that was the first earthquake and the following earth quakes so tragic . Thanks Fred . Geoff .

Fred

If your girlfriend is Indonesian, she can sponsor you for a 60 day Sosbud (renewable twice), that allowing you to stay in Indonesia for around 6 months.

She can't sponsor you for a KITAS unless you marry, but there are lots of agents with wildly varying prices so shop around. One (sadly) well known expat group offer them at absolutely stupid prices - be very careful not to get ripped off by such people.

The downside is immigration might well take an interest in you as they may suspect you're working. If they see you on the beach most of the day, they'll write that off as a waste of their time and leave you alone.

Leasing is fine and, assuming you do it properly, should have no serious issues.

Why a villa?
Alone (maybe with girlfriend), why such an expensive place when you can rent a house far more cheaply?
I'm from Barnsley, a place where we don't waste money :D

Maid - Don't worry about an English speaker because that skill often comes at a premium. Google translate will easily cover the language issue. If you have computers and other electronics, keep them in a locked room when you're out but the maid is in. Our last one stole a Rp20,000 note - not a lot to us but big for her. I let her off without saying anything but trust had gone so she had to go.
Keep temptation out of the way.

Watch out for medical - the expat companies charge expat prices. You can save a lot by shopping around local companies.

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Is a WNA with a visa exempt status/VOA/tourist visa allowed to open a bank account (savings account for example) nowadays?

Fred

Opening an account requires a KITAS or KITAP

scotocs

Fred wrote:

I live on (Family of 4 with a maid) less than 10 million per month, meaning I save quite a lot and my bank manager shakes my hand when I wander in.

No boozing but I'm into food in a fat glutton sort of way.


Hello there,

I hope I am not intruding...
Fred, I am a bit curious about how you manage with less than 10 million per month as I am planning to join my wife and kid in Bogor and as much as I tried, I can't seem to find a way below these 10 millions a month (without maid) which seems a bit steep to me still. Are you based in Jakarta?

I do not know Indonesia sufficiently well yet to have a clear idea and any insights would help greatly.Ìý
I do not go out, am not particularly interested with luxury life or whatever and I try to keep from spending uselessly...

Fred

Rent for a year with security and rubbish collection 19 million
electricity 1 million or less
water 200,000 or less
Daughter's school 2 million and a bit

The rest is car, pizza, food for home cooking and this that.

I managed about the same in Jakarta area but rents are higher. I'd do it on less if it wasn't for eating out in western food places when I'm at home.

scotocs

Happy New Year!

Thanks for your answer Fred.
Yes I see that utilities cost about the same. We have higher rent though because of the area where we live... That's actually the main spending together with food somehow as western food is sometimes welcome!

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