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No basically - NHS care is for UK Residents and you need to be registered with a GP

You could move back and reregister..

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/health … 0register.

Jim

Not me but a lady I know  have kept her doctor and a house in uk and hold a meu1 in cyprus would this be legal to return and just keep using

GOV.UK website (read 2nd from last paragraph... highlighted
Healthcare for visitors to the UK from the EUUK nationals who no longer live in the UK

Because the NHS is a residency-based system, under NHS rules UK nationals who move abroad on a permanent basis lose their entitlement to free NHS healthcare.

UK nationals living and working in EU countries, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland on or before 31 December 2020 and their family members may be eligible to use NHS services without charge. You may be asked to provide evidence of your residency. Please check with the authorities in the member state in which you reside for further information.

If you are a UK national and move to the EU, you should not expect to be able to use NHS services for free when visiting the UK unless you have an EHIC, PRC or S2 to show your healthcare costs are funded by the EU country in which you now live, or another exemption applies.

You should take out appropriate travel insurance when visiting the UK, as you would when visiting any other country. Any treatment you may have to pay for will be charged at 150% of the national NHS rate.

Some former UK residents do not have to pay for NHS treatment when visiting England. This includes UK war pensioners, UK government employees, and UK nationals living in the EU on or before 31 December 2020.

You should check before travelling to the UK whether you qualify for an exemption from charging or will be required to pay for your treatment.

Much depends on whether a person is a full time resident in Cyprus (MEU1 is a temporary residency document & MEU3 is the permanent residency document which a person would be entitled to apply for after 5 years legitimate residency but it is not mandatory to do so). if a person is a full time resident here and the MEU1 held would usually indicate so... then you would not be entitled to return to UK for NHS care, unless you are UK state pensioner with an active Form S1 registered here which entitles the holder to NHS care in UK and to register with GESY...

Is there a reason why she hasnt or cant register for GESY healthcare here?

If your friend is a uk state pensioner then she can access GESY healthcare here with a form S1 (available from the UK DWP)..... if she is not and doesnt work then am afraid its private healthcare here and as a full time resident here she should not be accessing UK NHS.... If she works then she might be paying Social Welfare Contributions here and can register for GESY healthcare here. Q. if she has the meu1 how did she cover the healthcare requirement to get the meu1? as the old EHiC and now the GHIC wouldnt be acceptable as they are only valid for upto 90 days for emergency treatment as a tourist, and further that once you are resident here the use of the UK issued EHIC/GHIC would be illegal.

There seems to be a bit of a black hole where part year residents in Cyprus and UK concerned which the WA doesnt appear to cover and thus are restricted by the 90/180 days rule... 

It gets complicated and messy as if it is your intention to stay longer than 90 days then you are obliged to register as a resident, however there are many people who have bought properties here who spend periods in both countries enjoying their investment and until now it was never an issue but as Non-EU nationals now it has become one..

I do believe there is an annual renewable long stay visa available - at approx €300 per yr

Wow didn’t realize that a fine of €2.5k could be levied if you don’t apply for the meu3 once you are eligible (see note 10) In the link

Any info on MEU2 for US citizen in long term relationship with Dutch citizen who has
MUE1? We have lived in Cyprus since Jan. 2013 and I have been renewing a visitor
permit every year. Thought I would try MEU2, cheaper way to permanent residence. Thanks for any info

Are you sure you cannot apply for meu3 or it’s new equivalent after 5 years I thought you would be able to do so



It is my opinion that you can apply for it as long as you can prove 5 years legitimate residency via bills bank accounts etc

Just a thought that you should investigate

It is and always has been my belief that if a non-Eu national was married to an Eu national then the host country MUST treat the non-Eu national exactly the same as the Eu national to whom they are married

I would have thought you could apply as a family member of an EU national

Thank you for the information but i know a lot of people have meu1 and are still residents in the uk use the NHS and have come back for the vaccine and gone back to cyprus few months later as residents of cyprus they have kept their homes and doctors in the uk looks like a big black hole

That may well be the  case but it doesn’t make it legal nor acceptable it stinks of hypocrisy in my opinion it Is abuse of the NHS the same abuse  some brits complain about Eu nationals doing but they are doing it legally as residents the NHs in uk is residency based not contribution based whereas Cyprus  like many other EU countries is contribution based

I tend to agree though I can see an argument that you still paid all your NI in the UK so why should you not have the option - after all not all countries have as good a reputation for healthcare as Cyprus and you of course may not be elegible for free healthcare....

Jim

there is no argument Jim as UKs right to healthcare is residency based not contribution based..besides NI is paid and covers many things but isnt a factor in eligibility to access NHS healthcare.   

Many people believe this and that once over included me but not any more .... thats why the argument of EU nationals coming to Britain to abuse the NHS and get free healthcare never really held water as long as those people were in UK  legally and were resident they not only got it but were 100% entitled to it..... and UK chose not to check the incomers right to stay (via registration for legal residency) when they couldve and shouldve done.

Even here in Cyprus not everyone can join GESY and it can be seen to be unfair. If you are early retired with say a decent private pension but not state pensioned ,you must pay 2.65% of that income to GESY by way of the online tax return and yet cannot join it nor can you benefit from GESY services...    so effectively must pay private or pay as you need care, meds or treatment.... thus paying twice.

Its not free either as my recent post on how GESY works shows But at least its low cost but in a limited and specific way (LOL) as to doctor/gp visits referrals meds and prescriptions.

But having said all that the care I have had recently has been exceptional and its as a result of that i needed to find out more as to how the GESY healthcare system.... worked hence the post

I was posting more as "the devil's advocate" Toon and don't have the slightest problem with your stance 👿

Jim

No worries Jim I didn’t think anything else just clarifying the points made

It is of course as always down to the individual to draw their own conclusions and act on the decisions they and they alone make

Thanks for your response Toon. I are not married to my EU national partner but have to show proof
that there was a long term relationship. Not sure what that is other than rental agreements signed by both and or joint bank account statements. Might have to speak to someone who handles these applications foe a fee.

It shouldn’t be a problem if you go together and apply as a family member of an EU national my Maltese friend did this with his non Eu partner albeit he did use Gwennys red tape services but it was plain sailing I have to say and it’s about €150-180

Good luck ... please feel free to let us know how you get on