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Wellsfry

@danfinn

Mine Was a package deal... but I can ask Sean how much for whatever size you are looking for.

I know 1 extra battery for my system is around 80k peso. 

bigpearl

Sounds interesting Wellsfry well done,

Are you grid tied or stand alone? Can you clarify the 2 x 100AH batteries: I had 600AH of batteries @ 24 volts in my motorhome years ago. Do you mean 2 x 10Kw batteries? LoPo2?


Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl

@Wellsfry


Just read your reply, sorry. Our batteries here were about P 185K each x 4 to give us 40 KW of storage and by morning we drop from 100% in the evening to 65 to 70% capacity by 5 am. Plenty of storage.

Curious about your wind turbine, no good here as we only get gentle breezes on the beach but keen to hear why you went that way and the cost.


Cheers, Steve.

danfinn


    I have 12 x 550W panels, 8KWH Dye Inverter, and 2 x 100AH batteries  The 5kw wind turbine will be installed next week to supplement our nighttime usage.  We are on the beach next to a Lighthouse, and get a nice breeze probably 85% of the time.... so hoping just a little more help in evenings so the batteries last all night long. 
   

    -@Wellsfry

Thanks for the information. I know it is not customary to describe solar system capacity similar to the grid capacity (for example 15KVA transformer to 100 amp service panel) which gives some idea of load capacity. Solar specs seem to describe individual components but do not give an idea of load capacity without more if a breakdown. I would guess however that 2x 100AHr storage would power a residence, that uses 10KVA transformer, probably for 8 hours. All I can do is make approximations and guess.

bigpearl

Only a suggestion Dan from me as a plebian I think Wellsfry made a typo and he has 2 x 10 Kw batteries  and not 2 x 100 Ahr batteries, as said earlier We had 4 x 600 Ahr batteries @ 6 volts or 600 Ahr @ 24 volts and weighed near 400Kg in the motor home perhaps my thinking is wrong as they were deep cycle lead acid batteries where our new system is lithium ion  and not sure the weight (maybe 80Kgs each) and 40.4 Kw storage and from sunset until say 5 am we use about 30/35% of the capacity running the home and one 1 HP A/C all night, I turn on the A/C in the office (1HP) and one in the living room and kitchen (2.5 HP) and some times the 2 HP in the loungeroom at 5 am to use more storage/ cool the home  and generally get the storage capacity down to 50/55% by sun up and by the end of the day 50 to 55Kwh back into the system and fully charged.


Grid consumption we used to use around 22 to 23 Kwh per day, now with the solar we are using at least 50/55 Kwh per day with an average saving of P650 per day and no black outs.


Batteries are very interesting beasts dan as you well know and while our supplier/installer told us we can cycle them down to 10% without harm I try to limit to 50%, same as my phone.


The joys of solar.


Cheers, Steve.

renegadesric529

What size aircon would be needed for a 4 metre room

bigpearl


    What size aircon would be needed for a 4 metre room        -@renegadesric529


Google will be your best friend, measure your room in all 3 dimensions, consider also if the ceiling is insulated and the calculator will give you your answer by cubic metres for a window rattler or a split system.


Good luck.


Cheers, Steve.

Moon Dog


    What size aircon would be needed for a 4 metre room
   

    -@renegadesric529


The room is 4 sq. meters? That's about the size of a jail cell. Our bedroom is about 12 sq. meters, 3 times as big and a 1 hp cools it fine. If your 12 sq. meter room has decent windows, doors and ceiling you should be able to hang meat in it with a 1 hp.

bigpearl

Definitely Moon  Dog, our bedroom is 16 M2 and R3 batts through the whole home ceilings. The 1HP split system works perfectly and once the room cools the unit fluctuates between 250 to 400 watts per hour.


As said there are sizing tables available online.


Cheers, Steve.

Enzyte Bob

renegadesric529....What size aircon would be needed for a 4 metre room

I addition to all the replies, the placement of the air conditioner & type should be considered.


(1) In my case the sun from sunrise to sunset hits two walls with windows.

(2) One wall has sliding glass doors, so reflective material is installed on all glass.

(3) The sliding glass doors have block out drapes.

(4) Because of the sliding glass doors the air conditioner is through the wall  in

     the upper right hand corner of the room.


I would suggest the placement should be in the center of the shortest wall (width) if the room is rectangular. also buy  one that is at least rated one size more than needed.
   

   

renegadesric529

@Moon Dog

16 sq m  room with ceiling maybe a1.5

bigpearl

Agree Bob, best to center the unit or you could get dead spots. We are the same with 2 bedrooms on a south wall and the rendered block walls heat up and become radiators at night. We don't want to plant trees on that side so put up with it, potential granny flat area. The worst is the new lounge extension that faces west to the beach and only has a 3ft eave, the whole wall is half inch tempered glass 15/16 ft wide and 8 ft high and the sun hits the tile floor from 1pm until sundown and creates another heat sink, great in a cold climate but not here, Black out curtains are sitting here ready to install but I have been slack. We were going to put a S/S remote control roll up door on the outside but was going to cost around P 160K, we put that to bed.


I think the best investment we made was insulating the whole ceiling with R3 batts, tried for a higher rating but couldn't buy here and even the batts we installed came from Malaysia, dropped the inside temp by 2/4 degrees C and lowers the cost of running A/C units, reduces the noise on rainy days.


I better get off my derriere and install the curtains, 4 windows to do.


Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl


    @Moon Dog
16 sq m  room with ceiling maybe a1.5
   

    -@renegadesric529


Our master B/R is 16M2 and the invertor split system is 1HP and works perfectly, we keep the Ensuite and walk in robe doors closed when running but all our ceilings are heavily insulated.


Our main living area, kitchen/dining/lounge is around 70M2 and 1 X 2.5HP split system in the kitchen blows the length of the 14 metre long room and keeps it @ 25C until around lunch time and by 1pm we crank up a 2HP unit in the lounge room until the sun goes down, we will see what happens when I install the block out curtains. we also have large ceiling fans throughout the house and they help.


Cheers, Steve.

renegadesric529

@bigpearl

ours same in B/R size with ensuite and robe so will go for the 1 hp split

thanks for the info pal

bigpearl


    @bigpearl
ours same in B/R size with ensuite and robe so will go for the 1 hp split
thanks for the info pal
   

    -@renegadesric529


Don't listen to me, go online and size the unit to cubic volume as I advised, Ceiling heights and insulation come into it as well as wall structure. A/C units are cheap but if undersized can raise your electricity bill defeating the purpose, read the input from members here as well as your own research.


Cheers, Steve.

renegadesric529

@bigpearl

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bigpearl

On and off topic here and the second question I'll throw over to our trusty brains trust.


1/ We installed the black out curtains and they were not expensive and purchased online. I was more than surprised  to see they are 100% black out but still light and not a heavy drape. the difference is markable, blocking the west sun through the glass and onto tiled floor is a winner.

The privacy to the beach is also nice at night.


2/ All our electrical breakers here, all 32 off them and not including the 8 on the solar system appear to be double pole so should cut the power on that circuit for both legs. we always seem to get phantom loads on a closed circuit of between 3 and 6 volts AC. If we turn off the main breaker the load disappears.

Any thoughts?


Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl


    @bigpearl
ours same in B/R size with ensuite and robe so will go for the 1 hp split
thanks for the info pal
   

    -@renegadesric529


Rene, not sure where you are at with your A/C installation, we had another installed today, 7 now and only one to go in the maids room.

Any way was the same as the others, LG and the premium 1.5 HP and was P 35K installed including VAT, we have used this company for the last 4 units and Ben found them, a local company on FB and cheaper than the commercial stores.


Cheers, Steve.

renegadesric529

@bigpearl

do the guys travel as i live near burgos

mugteck


    @bigpearl
do the guys travel as i live near burgos
   

    -@renegadesric529


Is that Burgos in Ilocos Sur?

renegadesric529

@mugteck

up from clark airport near alaminos

bigpearl

So near Pangasinan Rene?


Steve.

renegadesric529

@bigpearl

yes at top of island on a farm

bigpearl

Sorry, cut myself off. the company we have been using appears to travel as far as Tarlac, they are based in SFC La Union and as said do a good job and will quote supply and install over the phone. simply give them the correct info and size, situation.


The one installed today @ 1.5 HP would normally plug into an earthed socket in the house, this unit was hard wired outside directly to a 32 amp breaker, we installed that while building thinking we would install a 2 to 2.5 HP unit but after today happy to have gone with a 1.5 HP unit for a 32 M2 room coupled to a 40M2 room.

Open space kitchen/dining and lounge all up 70 odd M2 existing 2.5 HP in the kitchen/dining and that unit worked ok but full tilt all the time, no throttling back, the now 2 units will use less power than 1 large unit.


Let me know if to want their contact details.


Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl


    @bigpearl
yes at top of island on a farm
   

    -@renegadesric529


Luzon?


As asked near Pangasinan?


Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl

Just for a laugh. For 4 odd years our power supplier could only be paid by cash instore, no debit or credit cards, no Gcash, monthly bill averaged 10/11K per month. With the solar installation our bill now is under 6 pesos a month (service charge) Ben went in to pay them a few times and the cashier said to him to simply pay with Gcash, he said to the teller he was told no Gcash, she said to him for such a small amount here are the Gcash payment details. the glitch is that Luelco charge 8 pesos for the service of using Gcash to pay a 5.6 peso bill, only pesos and saves going to their office.


Cheers, Steve.

Lotus Eater


    Just for a laugh. For 4 odd years our power supplier could only be paid by cash instore, no debit or credit cards, no Gcash, monthly bill averaged 10/11K per month. With the solar installation our bill now is under 6 pesos a month (service charge) Ben went in to pay them a few times and the cashier said to him to simply pay with Gcash, he said to the teller he was told no Gcash, she said to him for such a small amount here are the Gcash payment details. the glitch is that Luelco charge 8 pesos for the service of using Gcash to pay a 5.6 peso bill, only pesos and saves going to their office.
Cheers, Steve.
   

    -@bigpearl


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