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ExPogi
@Okieboy sad to see this message. I’m German too. Living in Laguna. The only chance this guy has is to contact the German Embassy in Makati.

I’m far away to judge anyone being in such trouble.

We don’t know anything about this guy.

He needs help. Yes. German Embassy. Hand him a phone
coach53

@kristopherryanwatson There was an American Consulate office in Cebu at one time, not sure if it is still in operation

- @Okieboy
And there was a Norwegian consul in Cebu too (handling Sweden too.)
So not all are in Manila as some believe  :)
Although some Filipino things as e g some region offices are NOT located in each region but in Metro Manila!!!  1f633.svg
danfinn

@kristopherryanwatson There was an American Consulate office in Cebu at one time, not sure if it is still in operation

- @Okieboy
And there was a Norwegian consul in Cebu too (handling Sweden too.)
So not all are in Manila as some believe  smile.png
- @coach53

A consulate is a satellite office to an embassy. So if a Norwegian consulate is in Cebu, it must have an embassy somewhere else in the country which would be ***Manila***
There is a US consulate at the Waterfront in Lahug Cebu with limited operating hours. It was closed for a long time after the Phils disinvited  the US military from the bases in Luzon, also a period when nurses HB1 visas were denied. But somehow things got better and there is some representation in Cebu and nurses long ago got their HB1s approved again.
Lotus Eater

@kristopherryanwatson There was an American Consulate office in Cebu at one time, not sure if it is still in operation

- @Okieboy
And there was a Norwegian consul in Cebu too (handling Sweden too.)
So not all are in Manila as some believe  smile.png
Although some Filipino things as e g some region offices are NOT located in each region but in Metro Manila!!!  1f633.svg
- @coach53


Thats what I like about the Scandinavians. You all look out for each other. You all vote for each other in Eurovision too..1f644.svg
coach53

A consulate is a satellite office to an embassy. So if a Norwegian consulate is in Cebu, it must have an embassy somewhere else in the country which would be ***Manila***- @danfinn


ok. Odd then the Swedish foreign office refered me to the Norwegian Consul in Cebu back then many years ago in my startup of researching Phils.
(Nowadays Sweden have own embassy in Phils. In Manila  :)
pnwcyclist

@kristopherryanwatson There was an American Consulate office in Cebu at one time, not sure if it is still in operation

- @Okieboy

The US Consulate has a branch at the Waterfront Hotel in Lahug (not the airport hotel) that used to be open in the morning only, for certain basic requests (passport and citizenship requests). I believe they are appointment only since the pandemic.

Edit - just saw you already posted this @DanFinn
danfinn

@coach53 Could be odd but the fact remains that a consular office is a satellite of the nation's embassy.

mahi948
@Okieboy

A rather sad sorry. unfortunately, I have heard of many of the same over the past few years. Especially of expats becoming homeless and with no money and left on the streets of Angeles.... I know it is not my business, but i am often curious as to how this happens.

Excactly . How to spend your last dollar in a forieng country then act surprised ?   Any sane person sees his savings running low and buys a ticket home .  Etc .   Drug addict ? Mentally unstable?   Idk


- @kristopherryanwatson
mahi948
@FilAmericanMom ok .good example .there was a case like that in this island (bantayan) a forienger had a hotel of sorts and they had a laundry service there we had our wah done there once and saw the guy
A few years later my friend saw him wandering around dazed and confused and homeless . A few days in a row .  Short story they ran low on money and the old lady kicked him out
danfinn

@mahi948 The Philippines visa waiver program has both its good and its bad aspects. With visa waiver, anybody with a return or onward ticket can come in which is great except that it also allows anybody to come in regardless of financial position. A person could come in with $10. With a visa, financial and other issues are usually addressed. Visa waiver seems to apply to richer countries where tourists are assumed to be able to support themselves. If this problem gets worse, I can foresee the Philippines following the route of other countries that require a visa of some kind that might filter out some of these people, even those coming from richer countries.

Lotus Eater
I have not heard anything about the German, his story was so full of different things, he told the counselor he wants to stay in the Philippines, he had a woman and a place but she left him, he is looking for work, but I am sure he has overstayed and if picked up will go to jail and be deported, he might have mental problems, he is in contact with his embassy is all I have heard
- @Okieboy


I wonder why his woman left him ? $$$
Enzyte Bob
I have not heard anything about the German, his story was so full of different things, he told the counselor he wants to stay in the Philippines, he had a woman and a place but she left him, he is looking for work, but I am sure he has overstayed and if picked up will go to jail and be deported, he might have mental problems, he is in contact with his embassy is all I have heard
- @Okieboy


I wonder why his woman left him ? $$$
- @Lotus Eater
Because she is Wonder Woman and Wandered Away.
HR-Director-Corp

What was his previous work? Does he wants to work? Maybe I can hire him.


P.S. German Embassy might pay for a home ticket.

danfinn

@FilAmericanMom ok .good example .there was a case like that in this island (bantayan) a forienger had a hotel of sorts and they had a laundry service there we had our wah done there once and saw the guy A few years later my friend saw him wandering around dazed and confused and homeless . A few days in a row . Short story they ran low on money and the old lady kicked him out
-@mahi948

I hear stories like this, "the woman kicked him out". I just wonder how 'beta' a male can be, to agree to be be "kicked out" of the house he bought and is living in. Is he afraid that a more diminutive female is going to beat him up? I would think a better outcome would be that he might agree to leave if/when he gets some money so as not to live on the street. Instead,  all she wanted was money and when he runs out, she says "get out" and he sats "ok ok anything you say". Sorry but that to me is a pussy who I cannot sympathize with.

Enzyte Bob

What was his previous work? Does he wants to work? Maybe I can hire him.
P.S. German Embassy might pay for a home ticket.
-@HR-Director-Corp

I think maybe he worked at Ikea.

laymanm65

@danfinn has nothing to do with testosterone. As a foreigner he can’t own property in the Philippines. So 99% of the time the title goes in the loving trusted wife’s name. So when she’s ready, she calls police and he has to leave or go to jail.  He is a foreigner and the house is in her name.  Doesn’t matter who paid for it. 

kristopherryanwatson

@danfinn


uh, It's got nothing to do with one's masculinity? you must be American....nice attempt flexing of your own masculinity. impressive.


maybe you should educate yourself as to how the laws work in this sort of scenario Here.


if the couple were married and had a house together, and then god forbid the relationship goes awry, if the wife decides to throw him out, she almost always have the upper-hand if then the authorities are called to get involved.


to be smart, the man should just keep quit and abide by her wishes to leave.

Philippine laws unfortunately are not in the favor of expats in this sort of scenario.

danfinn

@danfinn
uh, It's got nothing to do with one's masculinity? you must be American....nice attempt flexing of your own masculinity. impressive.

maybe you should educate yourself as to how the laws work in this sort of scenario Here.

if the couple were married and had a house together, and then god forbid the relationship goes awry, if the wife decides to throw him out, she almost always have the upper-hand if then the authorities are called to get involved.

to be smart, the man should just keep quit and abide by her wishes to leave.
Philippine laws unfortunately are not in the favor of expats in this sort of scenario.
-@kristopherryanwatson

Yes, I know how the laws work here, do you? First, if the man bought the house, then he can and should have his name on the house (not land) title. Second, her calling the police is not the way it actually works here although stories saying that abound, all variations of one incident I suppose lol. So everybody leaves the house when she tells them to leave because they believe it is true? Maybe some do. But she cannot just call the authorites to come in and evict him unless she can make up some story about abuse that is believable, i.e. there are bruises. There is a process and he is not violating any laws as long as he is inside the house he is part owner of. Finally, and I need to be careful here not to offend, as you are apparently offended by masculinity (don't worry, you must be European and I understand lol JOKE); sometimes in life a man needs to assert himself. I have heard of cases where attorneys have prevented such evictions and rather had courts declare a requirement to sell the land and house or to make other arrangements based on it being marital communal property. The courts will pick up if the woman is trying to scam him out of the communal property. OMG.That means standing up to a woman! And asserting your rights! So sorry to offend but that is life in Pinas where culturally, the man does not generally let the wife walk all over him and take advantage (sorry); I have had a Filipina wife for 37 years and yes, I am American and she always expected and wanted me to act American, to make final decisions where needed and to bring up the kids the same way. Remember that this is a former American colony with American culture embedded deep into their family traditions.

danfinn

@danfinn has nothing to do with testosterone. As a foreigner he can’t own property in the Philippines. So 99% of the time the title goes in the loving trusted wife’s name. So when she’s ready, she calls police and he has to leave or go to jail. He is a foreigner and the house is in her name. Doesn’t matter who paid for it.
-@laymanm65

It has to do with standing up for your rights and not being afraid of scammers and their families and corrupt police who might support them. When you suspect this is happening, you obviously get a lawyer (50K to start) who will tell you there is a process and you have rights to marital community property IF you are married. In the Philippines, your LEGAL wife cannot kick you without JUST cause out although the widespread anecdotal accounts as mentioned here may lead her family members to tell her she can. That called barangay "legal advice"; it is based on anecdotes and rumors and it has been used on us before in different circumstances but there is due process here, even for foreigners, if you get a good lawyer which you can afford and she probably can't. Family law here is very strict and it is based on keeping families together. I know all about the land ownership by foreigners blah blah, probably better than you, having been involved in land issues here with my wife ownerships since 1988. I agree regarding your comments about hormone imbalance but that has nothing to do with being a squish and a wimp, which many women hate. In that regard perhaps a bit more testosterone would prevent the wife from wanting him out in the first place lol. If you are not married, then you have no marital community property and then, yes, you are screwed.

fbbanks47

@onefogarty: You can do it a good deal cheaper, for perhaps 2000 pesos by bus and ferry , but it still needs money.  Whether the German Embassy will help or not is another question, but it is quite likely that they will.  A Bahamian acquaintance of mine got his government to fly him back to the Bahamas when he ran out of funds in the Philippines twice over, even though he failed to pay back the cost of the first trip!As for blaming the man himself, I should be careful until the full facts are known.  He could have been kidnapped and extorted, for example.  A German guy whose wife I met in Portugal after he had died, suffered a series of misfortunes.  He had been well-off in Germany, renting property and developing apartments, but then squatters moved in.  It is, or at least was, very difficult to evict squatters in Germany, and he went bankrupt.  He fled with his remaining assets - including his tools, with which he could earn a living anywhere - but then was robbed of everything in Spain.  His wife (a Filipina) and he, wound up living in Portugal in a tiny caravan until he died.  Now, in her late 60's, she is having to wash dishes for a pittance to survive.  Very sad.

fbbanks47

@kristopherryanwatson They are called consulates.  For example, in the US, most Embassies are situated in Washington, but a country may have consulates in Miamia and New York, for example.  There are also Honorary Consuls in various places who many be able to help nationals in an emergency.  This is often the case with small countries which are not important enough to warrant a full Embassy.  For example, there is an Honorary Consul for the Philippines in Nassau, Bahamas.  The Bahamas is too small to warrant an Embassy there.There is normally an Honorary Consul for Germany stationed in Davao, but it appears to be closed at the moment.  If it opens, that would be the best starting point for the destitute German national. ()

mm141

What happened?


Btw for people searching for this topic, there are currently two embassys of Germany in the Philippines:


  • Embassy of the Federal Republic of Germany in Manila
  • 25/F Tower II, RCBC Plaza, 6819 Ayala Ave. 1200 Makati City, Metro Manila.
  • The Honorary Consul of the Federal Republic of Germany in Cebu
  • Ford's Inn, AS Fortuna Street, Corner Banilad Road, 6000 Cebu City, Philippines


See:

mm141

@fbbanks47 The Honorary Consulate in Davao is closed. Only Manila and Cebu are remaining

robertegner

@Okieboy

manila.dipl.de

Webpage German embassy in Manila. They are not quite friendly there. I have never seen a German officer there only Philippine employees. He only can contract online.

Good luck

robertegner

@Okieboy

My neighbour is American veteran here in Laguna. He got a stroke and nobody helped him from Amerika. They even have an office in Manila. He was in the hospital and the philhealth paid 60% of his hospital bill and we paid 40% to get I'm our from hospital. My German classmate in USA, here husband was Vietnam veteran, helpt my us friend here in Philippines from the USA. Veteran office in Manila was unable to so anything. Do not relay on American Goverment to much.

robertegner

@talamban

You are absolutly right.

robertegner

@Enzyte Bob

The German Goverment flying in Afgan Refrugees from Parkistan to Germany without passports and provide good live in Germany without work instead to help stranded Germans in philippines.

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