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It is slightly different if a Brazilain passport holder comes to Portugal they can come for 180 and not have to ask for an extension, pity its not reciprocal.

- @ltoby955

@rraypo Hi yeah totally get that and they celebrate 200 years of independence on the 7th of September, I was just saying the two countries have close ties and it should be on this too.聽 500,000 Brazilians now live in Portugal from a population of just 11 million, Portugal have just allowed the Brazilain population to use their driving licence here with no need to change as immigrants.

@abthree Thank you for the explanation. I am quite amaized now why the border police agent gave me in March 46 days of stay with Hungarian passport AFTER I spent almost 90 between december and march, returning at the and of march to Brazil. But that was my salvation because in fact,聽 I thought by that time that I need only to get out of the country to return for onther 90 days period. Beseide Hungarian I have also Romanian citizenship. On the list of Brazilian authorities about visa regulation I see that some EU countries have a * sign at the 90 visa free mention like Hungary, other does not have, like Romania. Maybe does it meens that聽 I could prolong my stay of 90 days? I tried to find a clear information regarding this aspect, about I couldn't find.聽 聽

@Texanbrazil聽 Thank you!

08/10/20 I guess you have to show both passports as they would both need stamping at somepoint? Guessing

- @ltoby955

@abthree ok and does that not confuse re the stamp in the visa if you use a different say for entry and exit?

08/19/22 @abthree ok and does that not confuse re the stamp in the visa if you use a different say for entry and exit?

- @ltoby955

@abthree For me it would be perfect the rule 180/365 since I prefer to stay at once a longer period (during the colder period in Europe...)聽 than to travel two times. My Romanian passport expired but as I see, it is worth to apply for a new one. One can never know. But one more question: it is stated that the stay of the 90 days can be extend only ONCE. It means only once in LIFE or once every time I visit Brasil after staying 180 out of the country?聽 By the way, the Brazilian ambassy in Budapest wrote that during my next trip to Brasil I am entitled to stay... 70 days.

It is not recomen trying to use different passports on one stay. PF can request you to leave Brazil within 8 days. It happen to 4 travelers using different African countries in 2017. They showed a passport and were referred to secondary. Search found various passports.

- @Texanbrazil

@jasonlovesdogs on the extension of an additional 90 days do they take off any days you don't use to use on the next visit to Brazil. I need around 120 days between October and March 2022/23?

@ltoby955 No you don't lose days. With an approved extension you have a total of 180 days a year to use, as far as I understand it.

Hi Guys,

I have been reading this thread and found it very useful, but I had a question specific to my counting of days as I just can't figure out what my best course of action is and wondered if someone could help me please? I am a UK citizen on a UK passport:

The situation is that currently I have spent 73 days in Brasil this year as outlined below:

Arrived first on 28th Dec 2022

Left on 26th February 2023 (61 days)

Arrived on 9th August 2023

Left on 20th August (12 days)

= 73 days

Where I am now confused is what happens next. I am due to travel to Brasil again arriving on 1st October and leaving on the 10th December, totalling a further 70 days. So my question is, will I need to apply for an extension once I next arrive in Brasil as my next stay will take me over 90 days total, or because I have re-entered again, am I able to stay for that time as a new 90 day period without an extension as long as it's not going over my total allowed 180 days for the calendar year (i.e. from 27th December 2022)?

Would really appreciate the advice, many thanks!

DAVID ANDERSON

08/22/23 @davidandersonproperty.聽 Please see response to your duplicate post.

@abthree much appreciated and apologies for the duplicate post!

Hello,

thanks for all the help, so much useful information!

I apologise in advance for the length of my post but I want to make sure what I wrote is easily understandable.

If you would be so kind, I could use your help regarding my visit(s) to Brasil.

I am a Croat, with a Croatian passport, living in Croatia. Croatian citizens have a vise-free entry to Brasil, maximum of 90 days per visit and 180 days out of 365 days, if I'm not mistaken.

I have a Brasilian boyfriend and have visited him earlier this year:

arrived to Brasil 鈥� February 20th 2023,

left Brasil 鈥� April 19th 2023,

with total stay of = 60 days.

I'm planning my next trip there this year:

will arrive to Brasil 鈥� November 20th 2023

In between my departure and my next next arrival, there will have been 213 days.

As far as I can tell, when I arrive in November I will be able to stay for 90 days with no need to apply for an extension after the first 30 days (which would complete my first 90 days stay in the last 12 months 60+30=90).

Meaning, I would have to leave Brasil at the latest February 16th 2024, so I don't overstay my 180 days in 365 allowance, or ask for an extension for another 30 day to complete 180 in 365 (although at that point it would have exceeded the period of 365 days).

Now, since we don't want to live apart any more (this past year has been tough), we would like to form a stable union (seems easier and much faster than getting married) as soon as I arrive, and then I would apply for a visa so I could gain residency. I'm in the process of gathering required documents and having them apostilled.

We hope to be able to do this within these 90 days I'm able to stay there, so I don't have to leave at any point.

My questions are:

1.聽 聽 Is everything I've written true, am I getting anything wrong?

2.聽 聽 If for some reason I'm not able to get residency, at what point does my 180 days in 365 days allowance restart? And does it?

3.聽 聽 Can I ask for an extension to stay as a tourist for another 90 days, after February 16th 2024, and not just 30 days?

4.聽 聽 Can I leave Brasil by February 16th 2024 (the 90 days expiration date), and re-enter after February 20th 2023 (the date I first arrived to Brasil this year)? Or do I have to leave for at least 90 days before coming to Brasil for the third time (I've read this somewhere, but it was unclear)?

Thank you in advance!

Best,

Tajana

@leemeta

As long as you begin the process with the PF to obtain residency before your 90 days expire they will give you a process number which will allow you to stay legally while you complete your application. Once your application is approved you will get a printout with your RNM which will serve as proof of residency while you await your CRNM. I returned to the US the day my application was finally accepted and returned to Brasil with no issues.

@Bpm917

Great to hear! Thank you for your reply!

10/26/23 @leemeta.聽 Hi, Tajana.聽 I think that you're going to be fine.聽

Assuming that you arrive on November 20, 2023, you will only have spent 59 days in Brazil during the previous 365 days (9 in February, 31 in March, 19 in April), and you'll have 121 left:聽 a normal 90 day stay, plus a possible extension of up to 31 days.聽 But you'll get the February 2023 days back on March 1, so you'll have even more time.聽 If you arrive with all the necessary documents and start the processes as soon as you should arrive, you should be able to either get married or to establish a Uni茫o Est谩vel at a cart贸rio well before your tourist visa runs out.聽 Once the Pol铆cia Federal accepts your application for Authorization for Residency, the clock on your visa stops running until they make their decision.

I describe the process for Uni茫o Est谩vel in this thread:

/forum/viewtopic.p 鈥� 95#5786795

I describe the process for civil marriage in this thread:

/forum/viewtopic.p 鈥� 78#5785798

I suggest that you and your boyfriend seriously consider marriage rather than Uni茫o Est谩vel.聽 The requirements at the cart贸rio are basically the same and if you're prepared the time required is not very different.聽 The requirements for the Authorization for Residency at the Pol铆cia Federal are the same, but the PF will be less suspicious of a new marriage than they are of a new Uni茫o Est谩vel.

Best of luck to you both.

@abthree

Thank you so much, really appreciate it!

We were considering marriage at first, but Stable union seemed like a better option for us.. no waiting, no people I barely know as witnesses, no upset family and friends.

However, now that you said it, I'm rethinking our whole plan, as I don't want to risk being able to stay.

I don't like the fact you have to wait up to a month for the marriage certificate, then wait for the date to get married, and theeen apply for residence. Makes me kinda anxious, having this 90 day timeline.

I get that it's more than doable in theory, but I'm not much of a risk taker..聽

聽 10/26/23Thank you so much, really appreciate it!I don't like the fact you have to wait up to a month for the marriage certificate, then wait for the date to get married, and theeen apply for residence. Makes me kinda anxious, having this 90 day timeline.I get that it's more than doable in theory, but I'm not much of a risk taker..聽 聽 聽 聽 聽 -@leemeta

My pleasure.聽 The cart贸rios have a certain amount of leeway on the delays.聽 Your boyfriend should talk to them in advance to see what they can do, and what they recommend.聽 Brazilian officialdom does not react well to surprises, but with advance notice they're quite likely to work with you.

The most important thing, and I can't stress this enough, is to have all of your documents for both the cart贸rio and the Pol铆cia Federal complete and apostilled when you arrive.聽 You can get the Sworn Translations done here, but the rest should be complete when you get on the plane in Zagreb.聽 Get duplicate originals of any document you can:聽 you won't be sorry.聽 Scan everything, and send the scans to your boyfriend, so you'll have an additional copy in a safe place.聽 You can also use the scans to get the Sworn Translations.

@Szegediensis Brother where in Brazil will you come too?? Bring Szeged paprika and also leszco pepper seeds. You ain't聽 going to find the good stuff here. I did find a few hungarian聽 restaurants in sp though. Haven't聽 been yet, too far away. Good luck with your cash flow!!!

@abthree hi, I cannot find your response of 08/22/23 to @davidandersonproperty and was wondering if you could re-post it?

11/22/23聽 聽 @abthree hi, I cannot find your response of 08/22/23 to @davidandersonproperty and was wondering if you could re-post it?聽 聽

聽 聽 -@Tony Jaques

Post #61 here

@abthree thank you so much