½ûÂþÌìÌÃ

Menu
½ûÂþÌìÌÃ
Search
Magazine
Search

Am I Being Scammed

roddiesho

So, as Pablo888 would say "Happy Wife, Happy Life". This means I may need to take action without being angry etc.


There were two electronic items that I really needed and found in Amazon Brazil. I asked my wife to arrange for her secretary, who lives on our property to do the legwork of ordering it from Amazon Brazil since, obviously, here ability to follow the instructions on their website was far superior to mine.


What I didn`t know and failed to anticipate was that she did this using her account. This was not bad, but AB denied the first try because it was a credit card that did not line up with her account. (I had really want her to do it under my name or create an account for me). My wife came back and said I needed to try again.  That was 24 hours ago. They had said they had to check etc. Fortunately, there has not been any withdrawal etc. from my bank account. I do not, however, like a company to have access to lots of my money and just not say anything.


Do not want to create a scene. What would you advise.


Roddie in Retirement🕵

See also

Living in Brazil: the expat guideHigher education certificate accredited by MEC for Naturalization.Brazil, a welcoming destination to expats?1 Year Citizenship routeDigital Nomad Visa Renewal
abthree

03/09/25 @roddiesho.  That can be frustrating, but I don't think that you have anything to worry about for several good reasons, the most important one being that if Amazon BR rejected the transaction because the credit card didn't match the accountholder's name, then there is no transaction. I strongly doubt that they've kept your card on file or that there's anything they can do with it, or would try to.


If you want to use Amazon BR in your own name with your own cards, consider sitting with the secretary and feeding her your information as she works the keyboard to set up your account. I would also suggest getting a Brazilian credit card from the bank where you have an account.  Brazilian banks are stingy with their credit limits, so that will automatically limit your losses at a pretty low level if your card get's scammed.  I have a Visa Ourocard from Banco do Brasil that I only use for Amazon BR and Mercado Livre.  The limit is ample for our monthly purchases but low enough to be a protection, and my US cards are never exposed.

bepmoht

If you’re familiar with Amazons app in the USA,  the Amazon app in Brazil is almost identical in form and functionality. I installed the Brazilian Amazon app on an old Android phone I had laying around and created a separate account in Brazil using my cpf and address here. This way Amazon and I don’t get confused by me switching regions in the APP on one phone. I have minimal issues navigating around the app and making purchases etc.. And believe me my portuguese is very basic. If I were you I’d set up an account and do it myself. Then if you have issues, ask for assistance from your wife or the secretary. You might want to try a test purchase first to make sure there’s no hiccups. A 12 pack of batteries or some dish detergent, something useful. When you checkout they’ll ask for your credit card info or you can PIX the payment or pay via Boleto (I always use PIX). Anyway, Amazon is a reputable company. I’m sure the payment didn’t go through because of the name mismatch. They probably didn’t know who’s cpf to associate with the transaction. I know the frustration of depending on others for these daily diddies….

roddiesho

@bepmoht @abthree I want to thank the two of you. I am going to try a combination of the two. Basically, I am going to set up an account myself. I could not remember Mercardo Livre, so I am going to check to see if they have similar products.


FYI, my wife is going to Fortaleza with my daughter and mentioned something that I do not remember. The two of them were considering buying an apartment in Fortaleza to rent out or use.  Not my idea, I am a lot more frugal with my money, but if I were to help them then what am I talking about pricewise, location etc.


Roddie in Retirement🕵

bepmoht

Check magalu too. I’ve found some obscure items there as well I couldn’t find elsewhere.


John_D

Regarding Amazon.com I have just been navigating to the .com.br version and log in with my typical US account credentials.  It knows me already (carried over my payment methods, addresses, etc.)  I just had to add the Brazilian address.  It keeps a separate set of wishlists, order history, etc.  Also my "prime" doesn't carry over, but I just make sure to order enough to get free shipping so it still works out ok.

John_D

Ferrreira Costa may be another option for online shopping, depending on the items you're looking for.

abthree

03/09/25 @bepmoht @abthree  Mercardo Livre, so I am going to check to see if they have similar products. Roddie in Retirement🕵 - @roddiesho

Mercado Livre has a very good selection, including many of the same products and some products at better prices and/or more convenient package quantities than Amazon BR. 


The annoying thing about Mercado Livre, at least for people like you and me who don't live in the "Sul Maravilha", is that their "frete grátis" can and often does suddenly change to "frete descontado" after their system reads your CEP. At the very least, you have to doublecheck that to be sure that what you thought was a good deal ends up being one. 


Amazon Prime doesn't pull that scam:  free shipping is free shipping, everywhere in Brazil.

abthree

03/09/25 @John_D.  Use of the same Amazon account across both platforms is news to me, but it stands to reason that in the seven years since I had to set up a separate account for Amazon BR, they've improved interoperability.  How do they manage your Kindle Library/Libraries?

John_D

Good question on the Kindle side.  I checked Amazon BR just now, Your Account, Content Library.  There's a banner/message that my content is managed on Amazon.com, with a link that directs me there.  So it looks like I have to use the US version to access my Kindle library.

alan279

03/09/25 @John_D. Use of the same Amazon account across both platforms is news to me... - @abthree

I jadded my Brazilian address and a Brazilian credit card to my Amazon account and have been using Amazon for purchases in Brazil.

abthree

03/10/25 Good question on the Kindle side. I checked Amazon BR just now, Your Account, Content Library. There's a banner/message that my content is managed on Amazon.com, with a link that directs me there. So it looks like I have to use the US version to access my Kindle library. - @John_D

Interesting!  In 2017 I had to set up a separate account (different email addresses) for Amazon BR, the libraries are separate, and I have two Kindles.  They both have books in English and Portuguese on them, but they're different books, I suppose because of regional copyright controls.  When I buy a book on Amazon US it's delivered to my US Kindle no problem, but only if my US address is showing as default on the account.   If my Brazilian address is showing as default (as it might be if I've recently bought a physical product and had them send it), I get a "Cannot Deliver to Your Country" error message.  That disappears as soon as I change the address.

bepmoht

Just a side note about Amazon orders from the USA account vs using a Brazilian account. By default from my experiences when ordering using my USA account, items shipped to Brazil  are shipped using DHL and Loggi. While faster, this adds a significant cost. The orders shipped to Brazil using my Brazilian account use Skypostal and Correios. Here’s one example for the difference using a 10 yard roll of Duck Tape as the item. Of course each item varies but this illustrates the difference.

______________________

USA Account 1 - 10 yard roll Duck Tape


$6°° (50.20 / Foot)

FREE International Returns

$32.23 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Brazil Details

Delivery Thursday, April 3

Or fastest delivery Wednesday, March 26.

Order within 15 hrs 52 mins

• Deliver to - Pancas 29750000


TOTAL 38.23 USD

_________________________

Brazil Account 1 - 10 yard roll Duck Tape


R$120.20


Up to 2x R$ 60.10 without interest See available installments


Delivery R$ 8.90: Wednesday, April 2


Send to  - Pancas 29750000


In stock

International Purchase

Import taxes are included. You won't have extra costs.


TOTAL R$ 129.10 or (22.30 USD *)

*conversion on March 10, 2025

_________________________


You save $15.23 USD for waiting an extra week.

Peter Itamaraca

Is that for duck tape or duct tape?


Clue - it was originally used to seal joints in heating and ventilation ducts... 😂

bepmoht

@Peter Itamaraca

Duck brand Duct tape, yes. In NASCAR racing they call it 200 mile per hour tape 🤪

roddiesho

@abthree Unless you get scammed by DHL / Import - Customs. I placed my original Amazon. Com order to my home in Brazil on January 15th. I now have officially given up...March 17th., three months later.

  1. 1st I discovered that they were cancelling and refunding the money because there was damage to the shipment (no one told me - I happened to be checking the websites.
  2. 2nd. I had to wait a Full Month before I could get the refund and order again.
  3. 3rd. On my 2nd. order, along with the typical DHL nonsense they tried to OVER CHARGE ME... Amazon. Com charges ALL Import fees in advance, however now DHL / Customs claimed there were additional fees to pay.  Amazon. Com offered to refund me the extra, but as I was working out the payment the order went from a holding site in Fortaleza, where it usually stops to be picked up by a local delivery to Sao Paulo.
  4. DHL / Import Customs had given up waiting and was sending it back via Sao Paulo headquarters.

At this time, I officially gave up on the order and told Amazon to forget about it. Of course, protocol says Amazon. Com will not even start the refund until the 20th. after the initial delivery date of the 19th.


Roddie in Retirement🕵