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And this is why you need to be prepared to defend yourself with deadly force. While linking arms and singing kumbaya is nice, the only thing that will prevent you from becoming a victim of violent attacks like these is having a firearm and knowing how to use it. Sadly these times in which we live dicate the necessity to take lives in defense of yours or another. May God bless you all.

I read an article a few weeks back that said, at the time it was written in 2019 I believe, Cuenca and Vilcabamba has the same amount of home invasions involving expats over the same period of time. This is interesting given that Vilca is much smaller than Cuenca. It says it may be the case because ex-pats down there tend to live separate from the ppl and flash their wealth. I also think it may be because of the location. Isolated wealth. Stay frosty.

when you say there was in increase, can someone give some actual numbers? When was the last time they had a home invasion? I tried to get that information online, but there doesn't seem to be any information that I can find anyways.

The Williams murder occurred on May 20, 2023,

according to the article I cited from

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The article is dated June 2, 2023.

The headline is in a group of 迟铆迟耻濒辞蝉

and says Vilcabamba Expat is murdered.

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And this is why you need to be prepared to defend yourself with deadly force. While linking arms and singing kumbaya is nice, the only thing that will prevent you from becoming a victim of violent attacks like these is having a firearm and knowing how to use it. Sadly these times in which we live dicate the necessity to take lives in defense of yours or another. May God bless you all.
-@DocRob1

Unsure how you work that out. The article states she was shot trying to intervene. I can remember another invasion that led to a death previously, where an elderly gentleman did have a fireman and started shooting, unfortunately the thieves were a better aim and he was killed.

In both instances, both people would still be alive if they just let them steal the television.

I know a lot of you think you are John Wayne, but fact is, you're not. Outnumbered, outgunned in a foreign country with laws you probably don't fully understand.

both people would still be alive if they just let them steal the television.

I know a lot of you think you are John Wayne, but fact is, you're not. Outnumbered, outgunned in a foreign country with laws you probably don't fully understand.
-@user159

Kudos to User 159. The last two sentences make this one of the best posts of the year on 禁漫天堂 threads.

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@Kaceschi Home invasions have been more common in this region anyway, but the difference is that now they often result in injuries and hospitalizations. Can't tell you a count because I don't keep track, but they show up on the Vilca expat facebook group rather often for a expat population of only about 1k people. Also, 3 expat families (including mine) lived on my road about half an hour from Vilcabamba and one recently sold their house, presumably because of a violent home invasion that sent at least one person to the hospital.

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