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@Antonius Yohannus Yench

Hi Hansie! It's great to hear that you're planning to visit Thailand and explore the possibility of investing in property there. For land ownership by immigrants, it's important to double-check the current regulations as they can vary. I recommend consulting with local authorities or seeking advice from professionals who specialize in real estate for foreigners in Thailand.

Chiang Mai is indeed a popular choice for expats due to its pleasant climate and vibrant expat community. However, it doesn't have beaches since it's located more inland. If you're looking for beachfront properties, you can consider exploring islands in Thailand, many of which have "Koh" in their names.

Regarding your cosmetic surgery, Thailand is known for its thriving medical tourism industry. Researching reputable clinics and consulting with qualified professionals can help you find the right place to get your upper eyelid reduction surgery. It's always advisable to prioritize safety, quality, and proper medical guidance when considering any surgical procedure.

If you have any specific questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask. Enjoy your trip to Thailand and your exploration of investment opportunities there!

@Antonius Yohannus Yench

hi im ashkan. i living in thailand long time. i know everything about thailand.***

@Antonius Yohannus Yench - Hi! I'm in the process of moving to Thailand with my family (I + wife + kid), and went through the new home selection and purchasing process since April -- in a few ways, it's still ongoing.

Home selection criteria

I've visited Thailand a few times, with an eye toward setting a home there, balancing these factors:

• Near a major airport or two, because I do a lot of business outside of Thailand
• In a city with a vibrant international community/expat community with a wide range of experiences
• Access to all modern conveniences, including business class high speed Internet (need it for work)
• Large enough to have everything, but not so large that it's a hindrance
• Good schools compatible with English, French, or Russian curricula for middle and high/preparatory schools
• If a resort town, direct access to the beach
• Soft requirement: easy to make friends

We narrowed our selection down to a couple of neighborhoods in Bangkok and Pattaya. We chose Pattaya because it checked off all the boxes. I was clear about our requirements, budget, etc.

Medical anecdote

The quality of hospitals is impressive. My kid got several nasty abrasions when he got distracted and the sea smacked him against a rock in Koh Larn. We took him to Jomtien Hospital where he received top notch care. Compared to similar experiences in other countries where we lived:

Urgent care was very fast - almost no wait beyond me filing a short form with basic information, super-responsive doctors, sutures and medicines were taken care of without delay, we were out of there very fast, and the whole bill was under $200 USD. The service was as good or better than in our (private) clinics in Moscow, London, or Mexico, and a whole class better than our clinic in San Francisco, where we'd use the UCSF Children's Hospital services and is one of the best in the country. The Jomtien Hospital doctors and staff made the UCSF guys look like they're standing still. And the price for care was unreal cheap.

Happy to answer questions as someone who is "in the process of moving to Thailand," two or three steps ahead of where you are now. Cheers!

@Antonius Yohannus Yench - Hi! I'm in the process of moving to Thailand with my family (I + wife + kid), and went through the new home selection and purchasing process since April -- in a few ways, it's still ongoing.


Home selection criteria
I've visited Thailand a few times, with an eye toward setting a home there, balancing these factors:



Near a major airport or two, because I do a lot of business outside of Thailand
In a city with a vibrant international community/expat community with a wide range of experiences
Access to all modern conveniences, including business class high speed Internet (need it for work)
Large enough to have everything, but not so large that it's a hindrance
Good schools compatible with English, French, or Russian curricula for middle and high/preparatory schools
If a resort town, direct access to the beach
Soft requirement: easy to make friends

We narrowed our selection down to a couple of neighborhoods in Bangkok and Pattaya. We chose Pattaya because it checked off all the boxes. I was clear about our requirements, budget, etc.



Medical anecdote
The quality of hospitals is impressive. My kid got several nasty abrasions when he got distracted and the sea smacked him against a rock in Koh Larn. We took him to Jomtien Hospital where he received top notch care. Compared to similar experiences in other countries where we lived:

Urgent care was very fast - almost no wait beyond me filing a short form with basic information, super-responsive doctors, sutures and medicines were taken care of without delay, we were out of there very fast, and the whole bill was under $200 USD. The service was as good or better than in our (private) clinics in Moscow, London, or Mexico, and a whole class better than our clinic in San Francisco, where we'd use the UCSF Children's Hospital services and is one of the best in the country. The Jomtien Hospital doctors and staff made the UCSF guys look like they're standing still. And the price for care was unreal cheap.

Happy to answer questions as someone who is "in the process of moving to Thailand," two or three steps ahead of where you are now. Cheers!
-@pr3d4t0r

You need to understand the difference between private hospitals and government hospitals. The difference is huge. At several government hospitals the care is ok,sometimes just mediocre. Thai people have to wait for hours for the most simple treatment. They can't pick a private hospital because they can't afford it, even a moderat sum of $200. If you're supposed to live in Thailand, try to understand how it works here.

@Leeds forever! - I understand how it works in Thailand.  I was recounting the anecdote to Antonius because he's interested in cosmetic surgery in particular and had concerns about safety, quality, medical guidance, etc.

The difference between private and government clinics services isn't that different between countries (except for the US, where medical care sucks in general, it's only a matter of degrees).  Cheers!

@ScubaInstructors hi mate,

Thank you  so much for your reply.

I am quite exited about the prospect of visiting Thailand.

Since I will be moving around a lot during my visit I thought of getting an airb&b in Pattaya making it my base.

The other reason is that it looks like I will get my upper eyelid surgery done at the Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya.

Any experience to the latter or comment to make?

Cheers Hansie 

@pr3d4t0r

Thank you  so much for your reply.

I am quite exited about the prospect of visiting Thailand.

Since I will be moving around a lot during my visit I thought of getting an airb&b in Pattaya making it my base.

The other reason is that it looks like I will get my upper eyelid surgery done at the Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya.

Any experience to the latter or comment to make?

@Leeds forever!

I get it.

Since I will be moving around a lot during my visit I thought of getting an airb&b in Pattaya making it my base.

The other reason is that it looks like I will get my upper eyelid surgery done at the Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya.

Any experience to the latter or comment to make?

Cheers Hansie

@ScubaInstructors hi mate,
Thank you so much for your reply.
I am quite exited about the prospect of visiting Thailand.
Since I will be moving around a lot during my visit I thought of getting an airb&b in Pattaya making it my base.
The other reason is that it looks like I will get my upper eyelid surgery done at the Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya.
Any experience to the latter or comment to make?
Cheers Hansie
-@Antonius Yohannus Yench

Airbnb in Pattaya is not a smart choice. The prices are way to high compared to rent a condo. It's also officially illegal for periods shorter than 1 month.

@Leeds forever! Thank you for that piece of advise.

I did not know that about airb&b in Thailand.

So I will take your advise and I am going to rent a condo

Cheers mate.

@Leeds forever! Thank you for that piece of advise.
I did not know that about airb&b in Thailand.
So I will take your advise and I am going to rent a condo
Cheers mate.
-@Antonius Yohannus Yench

There are most likely apartments for rent through airbnb even for shorter periods than 30 days. But authorities here are what they are.

@Antonius Yohannus Yench - No hospital experience in Bangkok so far, your plan sounds solid and fun -- have fun and a great trip!

I've been to the international hospitals in Bangkok and Pattaya. I thought they were outstanding. But higher cost.

I've been to the international hospitals in Bangkok and Pattaya. I thought they were outstanding. But higher cost.
-@devarj57

A "higher cost" is an understatement. The best private hospitals in Bangkok, Phuket and Pattaya are very expensive compared to private hospitals in other provinces. We're talking 2-3 times more expensive. Without tourists with travel insurances or expats with money or health insurances,they wouldn't exist.

@devarj57 All the good hospitals in Thailand are a bit more expensive than some of the boutique Hospitals that have shot up, especially in Bangkok.

I was already turned off by some of their gimmicks one finds on their websites. When it comes to health a few Dollars more can go a long way.

Cheers mate.

@devarj57 All the good hospitals in Thailand are a bit more expensive than some of the boutique Hospitals that have shot up, especially in Bangkok.
I was already turned off by some of their gimmicks one finds on their websites. When it comes to health a few Dollars more can go a long way.
Cheers mate.
-@Antonius Yohannus Yench

"All the good hospitals in Thailand are a bit more expensive than some of the boutique Hospitals that have shot up, especially in Bangkok."

Nonsens, private hospitals in Bangkok,Phuket and Pattaya are 2-3 times more expensive than private hospitals in other provinces. Not "a bit more expensive". It has nothing to do with boutique hospitals. You seem a bit clueless. You're not even living in Thailand.

I lived in Jomtien and Bangkok for several years until 2021. I have friends who fly from Phuket and Koi S to Bankok for expert medical care. Must be we're all clueless or want the best care for our specific medical issues. In USA, I travel to Houston, TX for crdiologist because that's where all the latest innovations are and the best doctors. Obviously it will cost more but far better than the local health care. Not sure why you're always so condecending on this site. We're all here to endeavor to assist others based on our experience. Come on man!

@Leeds forever! No - you are right, I am not living in Thailand and heavily rely for my decision on information I can get on line, or better, information I can get from Expats like you. So, then my question to you is - If you were in my shoes where would you go to get an upper eyelid reduction procedure done in Thailand?

Cheers mate.