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Carpintero57

Thinking of moving to Patscuuaro . Wondering about safety, cost of living, cost of land... I am a retired teacher and carpenter. Wondering about driving my 2004 Toyota 4x4 truck?

travellight

If you think you might want to actually move to Mexico, meaning you have visited and like it , the first thing you should do is sell the truck. You can visit with the truck, but you can not live here with it. So you have some research and thinking to do.. Oh yes you could pay a very large import fee to try and keep it, and of course shipping. But honestly it would be a greater cost than the truck is worth, and definitely not worth the time or money. Pátzcuaro is not a border town as you probably know, so driving in and out without a import cost is not an option.

As for the cost of living etc. now that you have the correct spelling it will be easy to look up more about the place on line.

guestposter3251

When men take very little with you very little with you you will find cheaper down there

sparksmex

Lots of bad and strange information so far.

All importations of vehicles stopped over a year ago and the ban is still in place.

You can drive your truck legally as a tourist with 180 day FMM ..... or if you get a Temporal Resident Visa you can keep the truck here for up to 4 years with a TIP (temp import permit).  It's only when you get a Permanente Visa that you can't have a foreign vehicle.

Visa applications are done at a Mexican Consulate near you

mjplatt

I have been to Patzquero and I can understand why you like the area. Do be aware that this town is in the state of Michoacan and there are still travel advisories for the area. I'm not going to be alarmist and say you should not go.... But you need to be aware this is less safe than much of the rest of Mexico.

Abbie3

Hello from SC,  We are looking into retiring in Cozumel.  My husband is retired military.  We are visiting Cozumel in Nov. and would love to meet some expats is get the real story on living in Cozumel,  Any suggestions on where the expats hang out?

mjplatt

I am not an expat, I live in Texas, and simply travel and stay where I wish in Mexico for periods of time. Have you tried the interior highlands?  Less heat and no mosquitoes, and other pesky bugs. There are expat communities in The Lake Chapala area, San Miguel, Guanajuato, and many other interior cities.  You should travel a bit and stay a few places before settling in.  And don't forget the Pacific coast, if you are beach bums.

Abbie3

No we haven't.  This journey is just starting for us. The stress of living in the US is tremendous.  We are looking to live comfortably and  most of all, to just be happy. I would love to have any information out there on Cozumel.  I know we are not interested in living near the docks where the ships come in. Not really interested in the tourist areas.  Looking for a nice community that is both fun and safe.

mjplatt

Cozumel, Cancun, etc. we're developed by the Mexican government to attract tourists. They are by definition "tourist areas".  Not that this is necessarily a bad thing.  But they do not reflect true Mexico in many ways. 
Mexico is a varied country from one place to the next, and you need to simply rent a place for a few months and then use this as a base for exploring the rest of the country.  I have traveled all over Mexico in the past 30 years or so and I favor the central highlands.  Spring like weather almost year round, high and dry means no mosquitoes.  Do pick up some basic Spanish.....it isn't essential but will make your stay easier and more interesting.
If I were going to move there permanently, here is my short list:
San Miguel de Allende
Guanajuato (the city in the state of the same name)
Puebla
And if you like a more indigenous culture, San Cristobal de las Casas........this one is in he southernmost state and only about 4 hours from Guatamala. 

At any rate, do yourself a big favor and travel before making a permanent selection.  The buses are terrific and go pretty much everywhere.  No comparison to the Greyhound buses in the states.
In all of the years I have traveled around Mexico it has been mostly by bus, and occasionally by personal vehicle.  I am a little more adventurous than you, maybe...I have driven my own auto all the way to the Guatamalan border. 
If you decide to cross from Texas, here's what I generally have done for years:
Drive to Laredo, TX and locate the Greyhound station.  They have a multistory parking garage.  Park there, and walk several blocks to the border bridge. Cross over on foot and do the paperwork, then hail a cab to the bus station, which is several miles away.  Purchase a ticket to your destination.  Always ride the first class buses. Carry a sweater as the air conditioning can be a little too cold at times.  The buses tend to arrive in he mornings and leave in the evenings, but major routes may have a bus or two leaving in the morning.  Plan on arriving at he station before noon, or you may find the seats all sold out and you will have to camp out in the lobby or find a room untill the next morning.

Well, I am running on here.  If you have any specific questions I would be happy to answer them.  However, I have never in all my years of travel there been to Cozumel or Cancun.  I prefer to dodge the tourist Meccas.

travellight

Add San Miguel de Allende, and to some extent Lake Chapala to your list of tourist spots, and move on to more native areas if you are looking for the real Mexico. Puebla is actually a pretty large town with the problems that come with pretty large areas like severe air pollution on occasion that is bad enough to make people wear masks.

Even the really charming places can change quickly. Currently I am visiting Morelia. Which in the past I have found to be very charming, at least a year or so ago it was, but not now . Now it is dirty and covered with graffiti tags. There is also at least twice the congestion than there was. Sad to see.  I was also recently in Chetumal which I'm happy to say is still clean and charming. So you have to remember places can change, especially those that are popular with tourists.

evaskor

You can  connect on facebook to the groupe cozumel4you

Abbie3

Thanks,  It looks like an 80% chance of rain on Tues,Wed,Thurs.  What can we expect?  Rain most of the day?  brief showers? I really hope we can find a lot to do even if the weather is not ideal.

guestposter3251

gudgrief

It's a crapshoot lately.
In both Zacatecas and Coatepec, the forecast can be for cloudy all day or chance of showers or thunder storms.
And the sun may come out for from 10 minutes or a couple of hours wit not a single drop of rain.

It can also predict a 10% chance and we experience a downpour for 2 to 3 hours.

Be flexible with outdoor plans and indoor plans.

guestposter3251

Are we talking Cozume ?  The link I posted shows the forecast is pretty damn good

Abbie3

Thanks, I really hope this trip is fantastic and my husband just says "OK lets' make this move". Here in Florence, SC it is just a rat-race!  Everyone is just rush,rush,rush and no one is kind.  We find ourselves working 10-12 hours a day and for what?  We want to enjoy a slower-paced life.

Abbie3

GREAT!  Where can we go in Cozumel to meet Expats, hopefully a few from the USA.  We would love to have drinks and really get to know the real Cozumel.

guestposter3251

try playa.info just keep in mind it is a real estate sales site.

Reitred on 738.

If you reside in the border area in northern Mexico, you can keep you truck, but you will need secure parking. I can help you if you are interested in moving to Playas de Rosarito.

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