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Wazzup

Husband, brasiliero, and I married in NY, USA. Now retired in Brazil.  I know I need an Apostille for the marriage cert and to obtain background check from US with fingerprints.  Do I need to have both docs translated? That could be expensive. Also, do I need an Apostille for the FBI report as well?  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.

Wazzup

Also, can I use any translator?

Texanbrazil

It has been awhile going thru this process. I did use an Apostille company for most documents and sent via email (electronic signature), they took care of all and overnighted to me (really no such thing in BR). Some translation was done here via certified translator and even cartorio.
Go to cartorio and introduce yourselves. It is good to have a relationship with them. Once they have your signature on file, many other documents are done, because they know you,
Now many not be the case is Rio. I am one of the few American's here and many places know me now.

GuestPoster204

Wazzup wrote:

Husband, brasiliero, and I married in NY, USA. Now retired in Brazil.  I know I need an Apostille for the marriage cert and to obtain background check from US with fingerprints.  Do I need to have both docs translated? That could be expensive. Also, do I need an Apostille for the FBI report as well?  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.


YES to all the documents - apostilles and translation.

robal

GuestPoster204

Wazzup wrote:

Also, can I use any translator?


PF especifically say "tradutor juramentado no Brasil."

robal

GuestPoster204

Apostilles could be done through Monument Visa.



FBI background check through Accurate Biometrics:



Download their pack which contain the FD258 for fingerprinting to the PF or a police agency that does this for you in Brazil. Mail by FedEX or any means advantageous to you. You can opt for expedited service which is about 2 days. You can download the result at their site and send it electronically to Monument Visa for an apostille. Keep another copy for yourself, unapostilled. You can then print the result from Monument Visa or you can have it sent to Brazil.

Hope it helps.

robal

GuestPoster204

I forgot to mention the Marriage Certificate -  you need to apostille that to the State Dept
of New York (state issued document).

robal

Wazzup

So glad I found you guys. I've been spinning  :o  have a great day.

Wazzup

So glad I found you guys. I've been spinning  :o  have a great day. P.s. forgot someone mentioned "authentication". Is that necessary for any or all docs? Thxs.

Wazzup

Just been reminded to ask about Passport  & Visa. Apostille & translations or in case, authenticated? also? Thanks again. Anything else I've forgotten?  Hope you had a peaceful Carnaval  :one

GuestPoster204

Wazzup wrote:

So glad I found you guys. I've been spinning  :o  have a great day. P.s. forgot someone mentioned "authentication". Is that necessary for any or all docs? Thxs.


Authentication: Usually done by a consulate.
Not needed in your case. The apostille takes its
place. Needed on all docs except your passport.

robal

Wazzup

Thanks for your wonderful message. Yes, I too have issues with "overnite" service, hah!  This is taking forever & I have to take some time so I won't have to do-over. I am alas in Pocos de Caldas but sent my query to only Rio by mistake. Got Rio on the brain, for sure  :cool:  Where I am may not be be as worldly as say Rio or SP, but I'll take a chance with the cartorio. Thanks again & take care.

Wazzup

Thanks, so an apostille & translation for Passport as well?  Bottom line - apostilles & translations for marr cert, FBI, & passport. I guess thats it? Thxs.

GuestPoster204

Wazzup wrote:

Thanks, so an apostille & translation for Passport as well?  Bottom line - apostilles & translations for marr cert, FBI, & passport. I guess thats it? Thxs.


According to the second item on your passport passport also needs an apostille (every page even if blank). I guess also translation. I don´t remember mine translated as I came in early and it probably changed. Some info also suggests the in lieu of the criminal background you can have a sworn statement stating that you did not commit a crime at any country during the last 5 years. Best to check with PF about that and also if you need your passport translated.



robal

GuestPoster204

Link now under review and the page to edit is now unavailable. Sorry.

robal

GuestPoster204

Wazzup wrote:

Thanks, so an apostille & translation for Passport as well?  Bottom line - apostilles & translations for marr cert, FBI, & passport. I guess thats it? Thxs.


YES!

robal

Wazzup

Robal, thanks so much for your help, it is very much appreciated. I will let everyone know how it went. Take care & continue what you're doing  :D

GuestPoster204

Wazzup wrote:

Robal, thanks so much for your help, it is very much appreciated. I will let everyone know how it went. Take care & continue what you're doing  :D


Come back anytime!

Wazzup

Hello again:. Do I need an extended.or short NY marr cert to get apostille.for Brazil? I was told to get.the ext one but I already have the short cert. Which one does BR PF need? Thxs.

Wazzup

Also, further to my last msg, i found a service in US to obtain the long marr cert just in case I do need that, but they need a US notary to auth their letter to obtain it. None in my area.

Texanbrazil

The US consulate can do notary.
Not sure as to M. Cert/ B. Cert required long form.

GuestPoster204

The long form is considered to be a copy of the original. It really depends on the official involved if he´ll let you slide. If I were you, I´d go for the long form. The power of atty letter can be notarized at a US consulate as Tex mentioned. It must be difficult and I really do understand.

robal

Wazzup

Thanks for your help. I'm in MG & Sao Paulo is like 5 hrs. away to reach the nearest consulate or embassy. Plus, I may have to stay a couple of days, who knows? Anywho, I'm thinking of getting divorced & remarrying here. Any thoughts?

GuestPoster204

That´s a very complicated matter. I don´t know about you but it seems that you like to suffer! :D If you divorce at all you should try to be alone first for a while and let the dust settle. Who knows, you might love the freedom of being single after all those years!

robal

GuestPoster204

I probably misread you. You'll probably saying remarrying your same husband now after the divorce to gain advantage on easier paperworks. Correct?

Texanbrazil

Wazzup wrote:

Thanks for your help. I'm in MG & Sao Paulo is like 5 hrs. away to reach the nearest consulate or embassy. Plus, I may have to stay a couple of days, who knows? Anywho, I'm thinking of getting divorced & remarrying here. Any thoughts?


IMO you will add a ton of extra work divorcing and remarry. Many here have been through the CRMN process and it takes a long time and many trips to the PF.
Think about divorcing.
1.It raises and "red flag" with the PF. PF is always on the watch for marriage of just for a CRMN.
2.If you divorce, you have to start the complete process again and some information provided may be expired and may even effect your visa.
Do you have a protocol from the PF?

GuestPoster204

Texanbrazil wrote:
Wazzup wrote:

Thanks for your help. I'm in MG & Sao Paulo is like 5 hrs. away to reach the nearest consulate or embassy. Plus, I may have to stay a couple of days, who knows? Anywho, I'm thinking of getting divorced & remarrying here. Any thoughts?


IMO you will add a ton of extra work divorcing and remarry. Many here have been through the CRMN process and it takes a long time and many trips to the PF.
Think about divorcing.
1.It raises and "red flag" with the PF. PF is always on the watch for marriage of just for a CRMN.
2.If you divorce, you have to start the complete process again and some information provided may be expired and may even effect your visa.
Do you have a protocol from the PF?


The Divorce Decree takes about 6mos to a year, that is without delays from state proceedings. Cost
around R$1600-R$2000 on lawyer fees. Advantage: No more Marriage Certificate to apostille.

robal

Wazzup

Yup, however what you did suggest was tempting nevertheless  :par:

Wazzup

I need reschooling! What's a protocol from the PF? Excuse my ignorance  :unsure

Wazzup

Hah hah not worth it. I get it, I get it  :sick

Texanbrazil

A protocol is a paper the PF gives you for the start of the process.  Normally once issued it gives you "X" amount of days to produce documents required to continue. If you are having "outside" issues obtaining document(s) the PF can note such and grant further time.
It is the initial step over obtaining a CRNM (or other processes) and each time you go to the PF up dates the protocol in its system. Do not loose this.

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