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Flying to Canarias with a dog

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CanaryFrenchie

Hello,

In planning a future move to Canarias, I would like to do a few weeks scouting trip and I would like to bring my dog with me.

It's a young lab (turned 6 months beginning of January) and I would feel more comfortable bringing him with me in the plane cabin (flying from France, will try my best to get a direct flight)

- Does any of you know if it's possible to bring a 20-25 kg dog in the cabin?
- If not is it expensive to fly him in the cargo hold?
-  And in this last case, do you know if the airlines can rent me a transportation case? I'd hate to have to by one for a single trip as I really don't fly often.

Thank you,

Emma

robarlington

Hi Emma,
I did look into travelling with a cat in the cabin. Not allowed from the UK, but some airlines in France are ok. The rules seemed fairly standard and the pet must be kept in a proper carrier which should fit under a seat! So I think the size of your dog would prevent it.
iberia.com/es/fly-with-iberia/pets/
Iberia's site gives you some good information, but check out the other airlines offering the route you require. Most have a good description of what is allowed.
Good luck
Rob

CanaryFrenchie

Hi Rob,
Thank you for your reply.
I have managed to sort things out :
- I'm flying with Transavia from Paris to Gran Canaria
- Not all Transavia flights accept pets, so you have to check your itinerary with them first.
- Pets of 5 kgs or less (including the weight of the transport case) can be brought in the cabin.
- Service dogs for visually impaired people are welcome in the cabin.
- Emotional support pets are not recognized as service animals.
- Any pet over 5 kgs or not recognized as service dogs must travel in the cargo hold in a transport case certified per IATA norms (maximum 102 x 69 x 76 cm)
- Pets cannot weigh over 75 kg.
- There can be maximum 2 pets in the cargo hold per flight.
- Only dogs and cats are welcome wether in the cabin or in the cargo hold.
- The cost for transporting a pet in the cargo hold is 70€ one way.
- The cost for transporting a pet in the cabin is 45€ one way.
- Service dogs are tranported for free

All the rules above are specific to Transavia. Each airline has its own rules.

However, the following requirements are legal ones for transporting pets within the EU:
- The pet must have a valid rabies shot (for example in France it's not mandatory for pets born in France, so I had to get my dog that shot for the trip)
- A rabies shot starts being valid 22 days after the injection, so do not do it at last minute!!
- A rabies shot is valid for a year after the first injection. Since this is a legal requirement, there's no wiggle room as with other vaccines. If you do not give your pet the second shot within the first year, then your next shot will be considered as a first shot (so you have to wait for the 22 days again and give another shot after a year)
- After the second shot, the pet will be protected for 3 years.
- The pet must be electronically identified. Tattooes are only accepted as ID if the pet was tattooed prior to 2011 (you have to prove it). In my case, I had one of my cats tattooed in 2017, so if I need to bring him with me on a trip someday, I will have to have him chipped)
- The pet must have a European passport that is delivered by the vet.
- In total, I paid around 30-35€ for the rabies shot + the passport (beware that I live in the countryside and the vet services are cheaper here than in big cities).

In the end, the two main challenges are mostly :
- Having to carry that transportation case can be a hassle. I'm traveling from where I am to Paris by train and it's gonna be a pain to handle the case, my luggage and the dog on a leash! And I can barely imagine how that would work out in the Paris subway (where a lot of stations are full of stairs and the trains often crowded), so I'll probably either drive there and leave my car near the airport or take a cab from the train station to the airport
- I found out after I booked that pets are not welcome on the public transportation in Gran Canaria (here they are welcome if they fit into a bag or if you muzzle them, in most cities), so I guess I will have to find a balance between being super local, taking cabs for short trips or renting a car for day long excursions.

I've tried to be as complete as possible in sharing my findings, but please ask me questions if you need more details.

victoriaharp

Hello. Whilst flying from UK with a dog is expensive and more complicated, flying from France is relatively easy as long as the airline accepts dogs and you’ve made a booking. Normally to fly the dog in the cabin, it must be under 8.5 kg, including the carrier, so your lab will most likely have to go in the pressurised hold. When I get on the plane, I always ask them to let me know when the dog has been loaded, just so that I am assured the pilot is aware he has a live animal down there!
Please make sure you know exactly the specifications the airline asks for regarding box and the fastenings; I was once nearly turned away on my second part of the journey in Madrid for having industrial zip ties rather than bolts.
When I’ve flown, I’ve also been told that it’s best not to sedate the dog. They soon calm down and go to sleep
The price was around €120
Hope this is helpful

robarlington

Safe Journey, I hope all goes well.
Rob

Irene Santoro

I’m sharing my awful experience with Transavia – It’s a long post, but it might be useful to anyone planning to travel with this airline, especially those planning to travel with a pet in the cabin.
On 7/7/21, I traveled from Amsterdam to Verona with Transavia. I was carrying my dog, which is small enough to be carried in the cabin. I would like to mention that I had already traveled with Transavia in the previous months with the same dog, in the same pet carrier, leaving from the same airport, and that we never had any problems. He weighs 8 kg and he travels in an official pet carrier which has the maximum dimensions allowed by most airlines, including Transavia. We bought the biggest carrier we could find for him to be comfortable in and to still comply with the airline’s regulations. At check-in, a supervisor told me “You have to buy a bigger bag so that your dog is more comfortableâ€. When I told her that a bigger bag would not comply with Transavia’s regulations anymore and that we had already traveled without any problems with the same carrier and the same dog on Transavia flights in the past, she said “We prefer the bag to be a little bigger, you need just half a size extra, so that the dog is more comfortableâ€. At that point, I rushed to the luggage shop to buy a bigger bag, but the shop was closed, so I went back to the check-in area, let the supervisor know and asked her to go through Transavia requirements together to see which requirement I was not complying with. She was insisting that the dog should be able to stand up: my dog can stand up and the bag can be closed when he’s standing, only his head pops out if he’s standing out (but not when he’s laying down), which we thought was not a problem, since it’s more comfortable for the dog to be able to have his head out and because on previous Transavia flights we saw people carrying their dog on normal bags that could not even be closed fully and where the only option was for the dog to have his head out the whole time. On the Transavia website there is no mention of the pet being able to stand up, just to move around comfortably, which is what our dog can do in his carrier. The carrier is also fully closable. Eventually, the supervisor talked to a second supervisor, and they said “You can take your dog with you but it’s your responsibilityâ€. Obviously, my dog is my responsibility, I want the best for my dog, and I know what my dog is comfortable with. He’s used to being in that carrier and he’s comfortable enough, so much that he actually always sleeps during the whole flight. Moreover, I know that napping for an hour and a half in a carrier during a flight is the best option for him: being left at home with strangers is not, and I’m sure whoever has a dog or a cat would agree with me.
After more than an hour of flight, during which my dog had been sleeping in his carrier below my seat without letting out a single bark or moan, a flight attendant stopped by and told me to close the bag. The zip on the top of the carrier was open so that I could see my dog while he was sleeping. I closed the zip as much as possible but not completely, so that his head, which was resting on the edge of the carrier while sleeping, could still be in the same position and I did not have to wake him up. When I asked if it was fine like that, the flight attendant insisted that I had to close it completely, and when I asked why exactly (since the dog was sleeping and had not caused any trouble), her answer was “Because if the bag is open then the dog runs off and we have to chase himâ€. When I pointed out that the dog was sleeping and that he would not run off anywhere because he was leashed to the bag (all appropriate pet carriers have an internal leash to make sure the dog does not jump out at any moment), the flight attendant kept insisting. Since the dog by that moment had woken up and was alert because of what was going on, I tried to pet him so that he would sit down and I could close the bag completely without stressing him out unnecessarily. While I was doing this, I asked the flight attendant if any of Transavia’s policy regarding flying with pets had changed, since we never had any problems with Transavia before and we had seen people carrying their dog in a simply should bag before, that could not even be closed completely. When I asked this (always politely), she snapped back saying “Are you going to close the bag or not?â€. At which point I answered (again, politely, unlike she had just been) “I’m sharing my previous experience with you and I expect you to be polite with meâ€. She did not answer, walked away, and never came back. After the extremely rude and unprofessional attitude of the flight attendant and since the dog was not causing any trouble or discomfort to anybody, I left the end of the zip slightly open so that his head could rest as it was before and he could keep on sleeping comfortably.
On the 9th of September, I received a letter from Transavia saying that I have been placed on the Transavia watchlist since I have been (quoting) “found guilty of not adhering crew instructions regarding pet†and that “these are very serious facts and Transavia has therefore decided to put you on the watchlist. Consequences of placement on watchlist is that you must report to the check-in counter on flights operated by Transavia for a period of 3 years. After reporting you can be checked for your behavior. The check will take place through a questionnaire with you before departure of the flight. As a result of the conversation, Transavia can still refuse you for the flight for reasons of order and / or safety. In case of refusal, you are not entitled to a refundâ€.
Needless to say, I was not planning to fly with Transavia ever again in my life after such a bad experience, with or without any pets, but I find it shocking to see how objective regulations can be interpreted so differently by different employees and how Transavia allows them to do so. Again, I would like to stress that we were allowed to fly with Transavia without any problems before and with exactly the same conditions, and that we saw other people traveling in such a way with Transavia before too. In fact, this time we had chosen to travel with Transavia again solely based on the positive previous experience we had when traveling with our pet. I strongly suggest Transavia to reconsider their requirements for flying with a pet, because there is no dog or pet who will be able to move freely and stand up like their employees wished to in a carrier with the maximum measurements they indicate, except from small cats and chihuahuas. And, in that case, there won’t be any cat or chihuahua weighting more than 4 kg, so a limit of 8 kg is only misleading. Transavia may also consider providing their employees with a visual reference of a carrier that is approved to fly, because in previous flights simple shoulder bags were allowed in, which can be also misleading.
Moreover, placing passengers on a watchlist because of a polite exchange with a very rude employee is also quite an interesting strategy for an airline, in my humble opinion. What Transavia should consider instead maybe is instructing their employees to be polite at all times, and not to walk away without saying anything, especially when in their head they’re planning to request to place the passenger on a watchlist. Shouldn’t the passenger be warned, if a situation is so bad (which was not the case this time, of course) to require such a measure? The passenger sitting next to me (whom I do not know personally) also expressed his surprise at the rude attitude of the flight attendant and wondered why they were being so difficult with a dog that was sleeping and not bothering anyone.

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