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Sanca Corcor

Hello everyone,


I want to move to Jakarta and build my life there, but I need advice and support to make it happen. Indonesia is a country I truly appreciate, and I’m highly motivated to find a job and settle down permanently.


I have a security guard diploma and am looking for opportunities in this field or any other sector where my skills might be useful. I know that the job market in Indonesia can be complex for foreigners, so if you have any advice, contacts, or job leads, I would greatly appreciate it!


Beyond work, any help or recommendations regarding housing, administrative procedures, learning Bahasa Indonesia, or integrating into local life would be incredibly valuable.


If anyone has experience with this or knows people who could help me, please feel free to reach out. A huge thank you to everyone who takes the time to support and guide me in this journey!


Looking forward to hearing from you, and thank you in advance for your help

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wyngrove60

I can't help you since I have never worked in Indonesia, and I am not sure if a Security Guard Diploma is going to help you. If that is all you have then perhaps do some research and contact French companies. Since the chances of finding a job here I believe are quite slim, I don't think it is worth discussing housing, integrating into local life, administrative procedures until you have secured a job. Learning Bahasa Indonesia is easy and inexpensive including learning remotely.

Lotus Eater

@Sanca Corcor

I have a security guard diploma


You’re over qualified. ***

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Fred

I have a security guard diploma - @Sanca Corcor

I would suggest it could be used as ***, but that isn't used much here.

You have zero chance of getting any menial work as you have no hope of a work permit.

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Bhavna

Hello everyone,


Please note that Sanca Conor is a new member and has a genuine question. The least we could do is to guide him properly.


Regards

Bhavna

Fred

The question has already been answered. He has no hope at all.


Working in Indonesia


ASEAN country citizens have some freedom to work here if they are in given professions, but restrictions still apply.To work, you need to get a work permit (IMTA) and a visa (ITAS or ITAP).To get a work permit, you MUST have a skill that is not available locally.This does not include lifeguard, security, cook, waiters, massage parlour workers and/or other unskilled work.Be aware, the penalties for working illegally can include, fines, prison time, and deportation.YOUR DREAM OF WORKING AS A LIFEGUARD OR A HAIRDRESSER ON BALI IS JUST A DREAM - FORGET IT.The law is designed to protect jobs for Indonesians, nothing else.A spouse sponsored KITAP holder is allowed to work informally without a work permit, part time and without contract. Working in your spouse's business is fine.Holders of this immigration document are restricted (according to the work department but argued about a lot) from formal work.KITAS (immigration document) and IMTA (Work permit) should be dealt with by your employer at no cost to you.This means you should take the contract seriously, noting you might well be asked to pay fees if you resign before the contract period.You should have an exit permit to leave the country, and it's your employer who deals with that, so no thinking about running away.As for two year contracts - don't.The company only gets a one year work permit, so the common reason they want you to stay is they have a high staff turnover.Take that as you wish, but there is no way I'd sign a 2 year contract without a very special reason.Your employer will ask you for a lot of documents but apart from signing letters and the identification process, your employer does all the work at no cost to you.The employer is also responsible for your flight tickets.

daviddomoney

I think it is easier as security guard in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia as most the security are foreigners there. Probably in Jakarta mostly locals I would have thought. But perhaps Bali easier due to tourism?

Fred

I think it is easier as security guard in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia as most the security are foreigners there. Probably in Jakarta mostly locals I would have thought. But perhaps Bali easier due to tourism? - @daviddomoney

Not possible wothout risking deportation and/or other punishments.

Working as a guard, or any other menial job, is illegal.

daviddomoney

Ah okay yeah sure thing. Kuala Lumpur Malaysia the most likely then.

wyngrove60

I think that's highly unlikely. Most security guard companies either employ Malaysians and these are in many cases Indian Malaysians, or else they use the service of security companies that use Nepalese guards. The reason that many building managements prefer Nepalese guards is because they are considered more trustworthy than local guards. However, in reality that it often not the case. Companies in Malaysia hire management companies, cleaning companies, security guard companies and so on. It is virtually impossible that a European with qualifications or experience in security is going to find a job in that line of work in Malaysia. Security guards are also not very well paid by their employers.


In my opinion the OP should not be looking in Asia for this line of work. He should either re-train in a subject that is more useful or look in the West.

daviddomoney

Yes alot Nepalese guards in Malaysia. Maybe more chance in Middle East like Dubai, Qatar?

Lotus Eater

@daviddomoney

The OP stated that he would like to “move to Jakarta†not the Arabian Gulf🙄

daviddomoney

Yeah seems that is not possible as a security guard though

Fred

Yeah seems that is not possible as a security guard though - @daviddomoney

Any and all such work is out of the question.

You just take jobs away from locals, then find out you hate being poor, leave, then the job goes to the next dreamer.

Result - locals lose their income.

This is the same reason land ownership is illegal.

Foreigner come in, pay idiotic money, and force locals out of the market.

daviddomoney

makes sense