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aklokow

Hi All


I had a discussion with 3 teachers from very different schools and cities, the reason behind the discussion was related to my plan for homeschooling and to gather more info etc, but not on the home school topic we've been there more on the school system. What I heard from these teachers is that every student will pass irrespective if the student has attended school, has the knowledge, passed the exam etc. This is simply to avoid a lengthy report of why certain kids have failed, also it will affect the budget allocation from the government. So, teachers ensure that all students pass the exams.


Now in my little world that is shocking, the standard of education in PH will just go down the drain and now I can also understand why Filipinos are treated in a certain way especially in the Middle East. Companies give no recognition for any degree that is obtained and funny most are business administration degrees. The engineers I came across was also very questionable.


This just further my approach to homeschooling, I want my child to know that you have to work hard for your education and the future positions in companies, not just getting it as a handout.


Any comment form anyone who have kids in school, do you experience the same or different?

GuestPoster369

@aklokow Was this information from a private or public school?

aklokow

@daytradersteve13 From a private school in Cavite and also public schools in Quezon province and Tagatay, I do not want to mention any school names, just merely asking for any feedback or maybe contradicting what I have experienced.

kayagang17

If you want to live in Philippines your children must go to pilipina escuela, so they can speak the language of their country.  Level is better than in US, children stand up when teacher enter the class room and they obey to the teacher!

GuestPoster369

@aklokow You may want to seek out an international school in your area for a comparable curriculum. I would say there is a big difference between private schools and public schools' educational system. Additionally, as someone from the USA, and has issues with the current systems here, I would almost bet that a private school with a Christian foundation would be a priceless commodity. 

Coz Huang

I knew there is online course can be done the kids school after pandemic in the philippines, they still can get the  certificate but.. kids have to sacrifice the classmates face to face

Larry Fisher


    I knew there is online course can be done the kids school after pandemic in the philippines, they still can get the  certificate but.. kids have to sacrifice the classmates face to face
   

    -@Coz Huang


Sir, please don't take this the wrong way. I don't know if you are Filipino or not. But the above writing is exactly why kids need real schooling with structure, and testing. You may not have been taught English, or maybe you were but it was not proper English, or not enough of it. But the sentence structure above is really, bad. I get it. English is not your first language. That's ok.


Many of us expats that grew up with English also understand, and actually try to help or guide our Filipino friends/lovers/wives with how to for proper sentences in English without ridicule, but with an honest desire to help. I have a niece about 11 that is super shy about speaking English to me. So I encourage her by asking questions that require something more than yes/no. But still keep it simple. Sometimes if she's here overnight or for the day, I will task her to read up on something. Like a historical Filipino name or something and give me a simple written report of what made that person famous. She learns Filipino history, and English at the same time. Then I reward her with 50p as part of the deal. She's opening up on her shyness with me and English. But still mostly shy/quiet. My wife has a 6th grade education. But she was shipped off to Manila to work at age 14 or something. The good part is she learned English better there dealing with foreigners in the restaurant. And in the digital age, she taught herself more by reading a lot online. But I am also and have been for 9 years, helping her with English. Especially sentence structure.


Not sure where my thoughts are going with regards to the school part. But I think in our own little expat worlds, we can help others with patience and happily, by teaching our friends the right word or sentence format and not in a condescending sort of way.

aklokow

@Larry Fisher


Ezcellent reply and fantastic idea to help each other. The key is the 'want to learn or improve" must be there otherwise it will be pointless.


I am eager to improve my English as it is also not my first language.


Thanks again Larry

mugteck


       

Sir, please don't take this the wrong way. I don't know if you are Filipino or not. But the above writing is exactly why kids need real schooling with structure, and testing.

Taiwanese

Larry Fisher


            Sir, please don't take this the wrong way. I don't know if you are Filipino or not. But the above writing is exactly why kids need real schooling with structure, and testing.

Taiwanese
   

    -@mugteck


I forget to look for the flag. "slaps self" gotta remember that.

Enzyte Bob

Talking about English, especially English accents. There are many ham operators on this forum. In the 1990's individual hams were licensed in the USSR, prior most of their operating was from club stations.


The English they spoke was the Kings English, when you heard one of them it sounded like they were from the UK. After several years they learned  Midwest US English. Sometimes you thought an American was calling you.


Thank God they didn't learn Brooklyn English.

danfinn


    Talking about English, especially English accents. There are many ham operators on this forum. In the 1990's individual hams were licensed in the USSR, prior most of their operating was from club stations.
The English they spoke was the Kings English, when you heard one of them it sounded like they were from the UK. After several years they learned  Midwest US English. Sometimes you thought an American was calling you.

Thank God they didn't learn Brooklyn English.
   

    -@Enzyte Bob

I am thinking the KGB spies in the US who operated the numbers station probably spoke perfect American English...but only hams will know what the numbers stations are.ðŸ˜

Cherryann01


    Hi AllI had a discussion with 3 teachers from very different schools and cities, the reason behind the discussion was related to my plan for homeschooling and to gather more info etc, but not on the home school topic we've been there more on the school system. What I heard from these teachers is that every student will pass irrespective if the student has attended school, has the knowledge, passed the exam etc. This is simply to avoid a lengthy report of why certain kids have failed, also it will affect the budget allocation from the government. So, teachers ensure that all students pass the exams.Now in my little world that is shocking, the standard of education in PH will just go down the drain and now I can also understand why Filipinos are treated in a certain way especially in the Middle East. Companies give no recognition for any degree that is obtained and funny most are business administration degrees. The engineers I came across was also very questionable. This just further my approach to homeschooling, I want my child to know that you have to work hard for your education and the future positions in companies, not just getting it as a handout.Any comment form anyone who have kids in school, do you experience the same or different?        -@aklokow


I agree with you and can see why you have reservations about sending your child/children to school and are looking into home schooling. What I would be interested to know is what actual grade the kids who do not attend school or pass the exams get. Does their grade simply get listed P for pass or do they get the lowest grade possible, maybe a D depending on the grading system?  What I would say is that I am sure that when they apply for College or University after completion of school, it will be fairly easy for people to see which kids have actually passed and which kids have just been given a pass.


My worry would be that the schools could also be under pressure to show that the kids are actually receiving good grades so if they bump up a grade of B to an A to make the school look better, that would be a problem to me. If on the other hand the grades for the kids that actually do pass are handed out fairly then I would not be so worried.

GuestPoster369

Please check out the youtube video from Market 44  the title is on public schools vs private and also had some content on each 





Col Rootentoot

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And to include universities in this topic on Philippine schools:



"What Are the Top Schools in the Philippines in 2024?"


By ESQUIRE PHILIPPINES  (Published 2 days ago)



The Edurank website analyzed data from 14,131 universities in 183 countries, encompassing 44,909,300 scientific publications and 1,237,541,960 citations.


For this list, the organization took on data from 500,000 citations from more or less 58,000 academic papers published by 229 Philippines universities. Other factors that affected the standings were non-academic activities and the strength of 1,093 alumni from each school.


The Top 25 Philippine Universities and Colleges in 2024 ..


1| University of the Philippines Diliman (#374 in Asia and #1367 in the World)


2| De La Salle University (#507 in Asia and #1752 in the World)


3| Ateneo de Manila University (#565 in Asia and #1931 in the World)


4| University of Santo Tomas (#836 in Asia and #2652 in the World)


5| University of the Philippines Los Banos (#869 in Asia and #2761 in the World)


6| University of the Philippines Manila (#927 in Asia and #2927 in the World)


7| University of San Carlos (#1460 in Asia and #4230 in the World)


8| Asian Institute of Management (#1654 in Asia and #4667 in the World)


9| Mapua University (#1669 in Asia and #4696 in the World)


10| Mindanao State University (#1707 in Asia and #4800 in the World)


11| University of the Philippines in the Visayas ((#1970 in Asia and #5398 in the World)


12| Visayas State University (#1973 in Asia and #5404 in the World)


13| Silliman University (#1984 in Asia and #5425 in the World)


14| Polytechnic University of the Philippines (#2112 in Asia and #5758 in the World)


15| Central Luzon State University (#2134 in Asia and #5809 in the World)


16| University of Asia and the Pacific (#2145 in Asia and #5837 in the World)


17| De La Salle - College of Saint Benilde (#2158 in Asia and #5867 in the World)


18| Adamson University (#2165 in Asia and #5881 in the World)


19| University of Mindanao (#2334 in Asia and #6242 in the World)


20| University of the East - Philippines (#2337 in Asia and #6245 in the World)


21| Lyceum of the Philippines University (#2346 in Asia and #6261 in the World)


22| Bulacan State University (#2360 in Asia and #6291 in the World)


23| Ateneo de Davao University (#2369 in Asia and #6313 in the World)


24| Don Bosco Technical College (#2394 in Asia and #6346 in the World)


25| Philippine Normal University (#2408 in Asia and #6386 in the World)



Apparently to view 'the best' 100 Philippine Universities / Colleges in 2024 :


Edurank  (Updated Feb 29, 2024)   



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mugteck




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    -@Col Rootentoot


Noticed Vigan's University of the Northern Philippines ranked 66, has an acceptance rate of 100%.  In other words if you graduate high school and fill out an application correctly, you are in.

Col Rootentoot

--        -@Col RootentootNoticed Vigan's University of the Northern Philippines ranked 66, has an acceptance rate of 100%.  In other words if you graduate high school and fill out an application correctly, you are in.        -@mugteck

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Haha yes, Mugsy .. true.


We can only hope that what our OP said isn't true for this tertiary level as well ..


OP Aklokow writes, "What I heard from these teachers is that every student will pass irrespective if the student has attended school, has the knowledge, passed the exam etc. This is simply to avoid a lengthy report of why certain kids have failed, also it will affect the budget allocation from the government."


Don't know, but maybe it is true for some Phils universities? Could be. Guess that's why the various Philippine's Professional Associations all seem to have quite tough professional admission requirements, often including further examinations, after university graduation?


Anyway, good on them too :)


Cheers mate

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