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pcc203547

Hello everyone,   I am a dual u.s citizen and a  Portuguese citizen. I  lately been thinking of moving to either Norway or Iceland.  Haven't made up my mind yet!


But the thing that is really putting me off is the lack of privacy as I call it( at least seeing things thru an American's lens).


Now I know that once you are enrolled in the population register in Norway people can look you up and most of your data including your phone number ends up on those websites .


if I did move to either of these countries I would be living off my income from the U.S and do not plan to work in Norway.


The obvious question that I have is there or are there ways of reducing this personal information collection? For instance, I really would not be closing my bank accounts in the U.S so I really do not need a bank account and as for the phone number, I am not sure how prepaid numbers work? Does that also entail collection all of your data? if not, I am happy to get another EU prepaid esim.


Any other advice on how to navigate this? I really would not ve happy someone looking at my tax records. Not that I am hiding anything but I will struggle with this as an American.


let me know what you guys think. Thank you

ECS

the prepaid numbers I've bought are still linked to some of your personal data- it seems you can buy the card but not register it for use without personal information. You can then also have your number unlisted so people cannot find you with the number or vice versa- I just checked and that is indeed still the case with mine.


However, I would wonder why you feel your data is less secure in Norway/Iceland vs the US. I would personally rather the government have my data than the untold number of companies involved in the US health insurance business, for example. Or all the different credit bureaus that hold sensitive financial information. And I do think that personal data security is stricter in Europe than it is in the US when it comes to legislation and regulations on how the data can be used. So I think it is more nuanced than "all your data" is being shared with "everybody" here.

pcc203547

I really do not have  an issue with government holding that data on me. what is bothering me the most is that: anyone can look you up( here anyone is private citizens who get the requested permission from the population register. When they look you up they have info on you such as your marital status, citizenships, previous addresses etc) some of it I would like to keep private from citizens( not from the government though).

Besides the population register, I have heard people see your tax data. I again have nothing to hide but this thing is sort of bothering me.

I may be wrong when it comes to the above but I am happy to hear your take on this and any advice how to navigate this.


thank you

ECS

where have you heard that anyone can look you up and find that level of detail? At least my experience is that in Iceland you can find someone's ID and registered address (if you have a bank account), and if you are in Norway you can read the tax list that shows tax and birth year (again if you're registered here with legal domicile). I don't know of any way to find previous addresses, citizenships, or marital status. I even had an experience this week where I took my car for service and they couldn't find my full name or address online and had to pull the vehicle registration out of my car to complete their paperwork. And TBH, the marital status and address info seems to be MORE visible in the US if I search for my own information. At least in Norway you can always see who looked you up in the tax register.


If you're legally domiciled in the country such that you have access to the healthcare, I'm not aware of any way you can remove your personal information from these lists in either place, so I suppose you could just stay up to the max allowed for non-residents each year and not become a legal resident. That comes with other challenges though, as you would not have access to all the services available to residents.

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