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turomp

IÂ’ve just accepted a position in Riyadh, and now IÂ’ve heard that bipolar disorder will make it impossible to get a work visa. Great timing.

So, if I happened to be a bipolar US citizen (and I only mention the US as a point of reference. I don't know whether it makes a difference in this conversation)Â…

Assume that the bipolar disorder is under control (meaning that I would be completely asymptomatic) with Lamictal. Note that Lamictal is prescribed for both bipolar disorder and epilepsy. If epilepsy doesn't preclude me getting a visa, I'd be happy to have it instead:

-Would bipolar disorder keep me from getting a work visa?

-Is Lamictal or its generic version (Lamotrigine) available over-the-counter in Riyadh? If so, where? Any idea on cost?

-Is it possible to receive mail-order drugs (limited to Lamictal) in the KSA? What if my wife sent me a six-month supply via mail, FedEx, UPS, etc?

-Once in the country, would one be able to be treated by a Saudi doctor for bipolar disorder without the threat of deportation, or worse?

-IÂ’ve got a three-month supply IÂ’d like to bring with me. Is there going to be a problem at the airport? Note that I'll be in Riyadh for at least a year, so that three month supply won't help in the long run.

-And now the real stupid question... what if one didn't note bipolar disorder on one's visa application, but then arrived in Riyadh with a three-month supply of Lamictal?

IÂ’m in a spot. ItÂ’s been a long slog to negotiate salary and benefits, and the arrangement weÂ’ve come to is close to perfect. IÂ’m an expert in my field and my future employer pulled-out the stops to get me. However, I donÂ’t want to be on an airplane back to the states or in jail because I made a stupid decision. IÂ’d be so grateful if someone could give me some info. I sincerely apologize for the length and narrow nature of this post, but I'm panicked.

One last gem: although I could stop Lamictal and deal with being bipolar, it's problematic because there's danger in stopping this drug and starting it again when I return home. The consequences include death, and that tends to focus the mind. Note that nothing has worked for me as well as Lamictal, but I'm open to other avenues.

Thanks

redgems

did you try asking the embassy your questions? dont give your name, obviously.

people at the airport dont know anything about perscription drugs, they don't generally open your suitcase but your baggage does go through xray.  however, the xray guy is generally asleep.

as for medicine, i dont think you HAVE to have a perscription.

Alliecat

I wouldn't worry about bringing it in, but I seriously doubt you'll be able to buy it here, even with a prescription (Saudi's don't believe in mental disorders).

RedGoblin

^^ have to agree with allie cat..
gettign meds like that here might be a bit difficult.

RedGoblin

Any doctors it he forum who can help this chap out?

turomp

Thanks for the help so far. Much appreciated.

MadMaz

Alliecat wrote:

(Saudi's don't believe in mental disorders).


I'm sorry Allie, this is a bit confusing to me :unsure what kind of saudies are you dealing with exactly? :huh:

Alliecat

The kind who don't believe in mental health disorders, the kind who believe that what you need to do is pray more and all will be well. 

I think this is the common attitude?

RedGoblin

Not the common attitude. Its the fact that they just dont understand these various disorders.

Alliecat

RedGoblin wrote:

Not the common attitude. Its the fact that they just dont understand these various disorders.


It's because they don't understand these disorders that it is the common attitude.  Comprende?

RedGoblin

Hmm..
Yes Ma'am.. :D:D

aah well..
best of luck bipolar mate..

turomp

Thanks much for the input folks.

mudkip

I'm in the same boat now as you were lawboy. I've got a few offers on the table. I'm thinking about not mentioning bipolar on the visa paperwork. Wondering how I could get Lithium. How'd it go for you in Saudi I wonder.

Maximilien

Hi mudkip - please note that this thread is a bit old :)

Dominick68

The post is from four years ago and there was no response, but I'm writing in hopes someone has an answer since I would also like to know if possible to get Lamictal here.

I've been told by 3 pharmacists that it's only available at a hospital, but I don't want to associate myself with bi-polar.  (I'm not bi-polar;  a lot of off-label use for depression -- but also don't want to be associated with that even thought my use would be as a preventative.) 

It's not possible for me to get a year's supply (What country...Do tell!) or order online.

Happy to take similar med, so if you have advice about this, please share.

Thanks.

XTang

Yes but let me clarify that a bit.


As per the rules, you cannot have infectious diseases (HIV etc.) or mental disorders if you want a work visa.  However, if you have mental disorders which are under control e.g. bipolar with medicines, the only way someone will know is if you self disclose it.   


HIV can be picked up via blood test.  Even if you didn't have it at the time of the visa and got it later; you test for it in the Kingdom and get a positive - that is reported to MOH (as it is a reportable disease).  However, mental health disorders can't be tested like that and are not reportable even if you get diagnosed in the Kingdom.


So to put it simply, if you make a point of going out of your way to disclose it, you will have issues.  Otherwise no one will care.

XTang

And yes Lamictal is available.  Even online from Nahdi website.  Just in case people are stil looking.

loungeschorus0v

@XTang how will they get their medication of they dont disclose….better to disclose

XTang

You are confusing different things. Don't disclose it voluntarily in the visa medical as they can't find out about it otherwise. Disclose to your doctor in the kingdom for treatment as it is not a reportable disease.

sammyf3091968

@XTang

Hi ..was wondering if you could answer a few questions relating to people coming on a visit visa and potentially needed treatment at a medical facility?

What if the bipolar person has a manic episode and has to be admitted?

My concern is mostly procedures and admission to a medical facility in this case. Medical coverage, facilities for admission in Khobar /Dammam for example?

XTang

Saudi is very limited in the area of psychiatric inpatient and emergencies.  Usually it is government hospitals that deal with it and they are usually full.   New private facilities are coming up but they are mostly in Riyadh.  Your best bet in this case is Bahrain which HAS the facilities and experience in dealing with this - many private facilities.


Also, why would they have a manic episode if they are on medication?    There will be signs first like lack of sleep, restlesness etc..............if you see those, immediately take them across the border to Bahrain vs. waiting for the episode to manifest.

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