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Adam De

Hello everyone, I am trying to obtain some clarification regarding the following.
My wife and I are NON EU citizens, we frequently visit various parts of Europe, especially Spain and are considering purchasing a small property in Spain which we would like to use, for holiday purposes.
My understanding is that as NON EU citizens we woukd be restricted to 90 day blocks, ie 90 days within schengen and unable to return until we had completed 90 days outside schengen on a revolving cycle, even if we owned a property in Spain. The purchase price we are considering woukd be WAY below the golden visa range.

We have been wondering if the 90 day limit applies ONLY if the individuals stay in the same property/ at the same address, during their stay. As it appears somewhat ludicrous to imagine that if someone was touring numerous countries in Europe that  they could not extend their tour beyond 90 days

We are wondering if anyone on this forum could clarify the legal situation.

Any assistance/ advice wiukd be greatly appreciated.

Adam

Johncar

You can stay in Schengen area for a max total of 90 days in a six months

Adam De

Thanks for your reply, John.

That is what we feared would be the response.

One point I would like to clarify though

Is it possible to obtain a legal extension for a period greater than 90 days, if one were visiting a number of countries within Schengen  90 days is not very long when one may wish to tour 8/9 countries. If it is possible to obtain an extension what wiukd be the procedure given one would be travelling between countries on virtually a weekly basis. 7-10/days is not very long to spend in European countries the size of France/ Germany etc

We will probably be spending around 4 weeks in Spain alone, if we proceed with the original idea of purchasing a property there and that would  only leave around 60/days to visit other countries, during this visit.

Adam

Johncar

Adam.  I did an internet search for you.  Take a look here

Adam De

Thanks Johncar,

I have downloaded the link you suggested..

Not sure how relevant the information is though as we have never required visas to enter the Schengen Area, or had our entry queried,  we travel on Australian passports, so on that basis we do not have any visa, entered in our passport to extend.

Beginning to think the most expedient way is to continue adhering to the 90 day rule

Thanks for yiur assistance anyway

Adam

Johncar

I had not realised that Australians  no longer needed a visa

Some years ago I met an Australian at the Spanish consulate in London.  He had a one entry visa for spain and was trying to get around the problem that have entered spain and then Portugal his visa would not allow him a second entry to Spain

You maybe disappointed that the Schengen rules are not as you would like them to be but at least Australians no longer need a visa !

Adam De

True, it is a lot simpler these days, I recall having to wait at the Spanish border, years ago, to obtain an entry visa. At least these days it is all visa free, but the draw back is the 90 day clause.
The advantage, years ago, was that one could obtain visas for individual countries, 30 day + , so there wa in effect no limit on how long one could tour Europe for, subject to having enough money.

Vonster.1

Another way to extend the 90 days is to insert some trips outside the Schengen countries but close enough, I'll be doing this in the next few months and I will probably do 10 days in Morocco, the UK, some time in Croatia (EU but not Schengen) and other Eastern European countries which are beautiful, close by, interesting and affordable. If you book the tickets early enough the cost is insignificant.

Johncar

Sorry.  I do not follow.

One is not extending the total of 90 days in
a 6 month period by leaving and coming back. 

It is 90  days in total !

Adam De

Hi Vonster,

Thanks for your message. much appreciated.

Am I reading your comments correctly,  for example rather than 13 weeks straight, in the Schengen zone divide it up say 4 weeks in, followed by 10 days Morocco return for 5 weeks then proceed to Croatia, or UK for example, for 10 days and return to Europe fir the final 4 weeks.

Obviously if one did it as detailed above they would then have to wait, outside the schengen zone, the required 90 days/ 13 weeks, before reentering and possibly repeating the cycle again.

Regards

Adam

Adam De

Hello Joncar,

Could you comment on the interpretation I have just sent to Vonster 1 , please

Regards

Adam

Johncar

Your post and mine say the same thing

Vonster.1

Yes that's what I meant, if the purpose of your extension is to have a longer holiday. That way you can spread the 90 days in Schengen over a longer period of time.

Adam De

Thanks for the clarification Vonster 1

Adam De

Thanks Joncar,

I think that is the best we can do, under the circumstances.

Thanks for your comments, they have been really useful

Adam

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