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Sadly its true accoridng to sharia law non muslim cant inherit if her husband is muslim

As long as you have聽 a certificate of islam from any mosque or islamic center will be fine even if you are not practicing msulim you will inherit

Oh wow.聽 Seriously my husband was not making that up?
See this is hugely a problem for me.
This is a really important thing for someone who is not Muslim, marrying a Muslim at least in Morocco to know.
So if I die my husband wont really have much of an issue collecting my money.... but if something happens to him I got to pretend to be religious to get the money.
I don't want to even think about getting Moroccan status because if something happens there the Canadian government won't help me.聽 At least if I don't have Moroccan Nationality/ Residency.
What a royal pain.
The Moroccan government really goes above and beyond trying to keep resources in Morocco lol.
Beyond annoying ....
Regarding the paper work claiming I converted... his family is not that stupid lol.聽 I am certain they would contest that.
I was teasing my husband last night by demonstrated that I know how to say, "Hi.聽 My name is ... and I am the wife of .... and I am here to collect my money" and "Please send the bill too my husband" in Arabic lol.聽 I should probably learn a few more practical phrase like "Where is the washroom?", "How do I get to the Airport?" and "I would like to buy... "
These religious people are sneaky ... and really know how to hold on to their wealth!

Most of moroccan are muslim by birth and most of them didnt practise maybe fasting only in ramadan ;
If you dont practise it doesnt mean that you aren t musilm
So for non musilm to be musilm u only have to believe in one god and mohammed his prophet

Then it comes practsing if you practise then you have are a good belief if you not then you have a weak belief but u wil still be musilm as long as u believe in one god and his prophet mohamed .

lol .... My husband is going to buy that train of thought.聽 Despite being married to me my husband is actually religious.聽 For example he dies not have to fast for Ramadan for medical reasons.... but despite this exemption he still fasts.聽 Why?聽 Because he thinks that if he dies why fasting it is God's will.聽 Only god knows when we will die.
Despite living in s multicultural country my husband will not work on Friday unless his he is able to leave to go to Mosque on Friday.

Also my husband has actually said according to religious teachings a Muslim can't give their money to a non Muslim or something like that.聽 So even if it is not a legal issues my husband struggles with doing things that seem to be against Islamic principals.聽 For example he won't wear gold.聽 He will occasionally wear a silver necklace I bought him as a gift.聽 His explanation is that religious teachings suggest gold jewlery is only for women ... men should not try to wear or do things to look like women ... or something like that.聽 He has mellowed out a bit since we were first married about some things ... but has not hugely changed his views on core things.

The Rule is neither can a non Muslim "inherit" from a Muslim, nor the Muslim from the non Muslim, but it can be comlex than that. The Will is not necessarily included is this Ruling. Always seek religious guidance from those with knowledge of these matters. Maybe start with a reputable Imam in your area. And Allah knows best...

Well this is an even bigger problem because it is subjective and when it is subjective there is no certain consistent answer that will be universally excepted.聽 This leaves me to think my daughter is going to be very financially lucky each time one if us dies because she will get everything from me and everything from her father as she won鈥檛 refuse taking money from me even if raised a Muslim.聽 This is why so many religious people say poor ... they naively follow rules that really don鈥檛 work in their favour.

First of all, all debts must be payed first, if any. One Muslim wife gets 1/8 period. One Muslim daughter 7/8. Also, it's possible your husband's (if still alive) Grandparents, Father, Mother, brothers and sisters, Aunts and Uncles, Nephews, cousins and etc. could be entitled to inheritance. If so, the ratios change for daughter, but one Muslim wife is 1/8 period. Non-Muslim wife is 0%.

Google Islamic inheritance calculator.

Lol.... wow zero. Well the good thing is I have my own money and at least I am understanding this now.聽 Total nonsense.聽 I have to make sure my husband starts putting things in my daughter's name.聽 How annoying.聽 I am going to be pushing the bills/ checks for anythinv I buy in Morocco 100% towards my husband for the entire trip.
In fact I think I might have to start visiting more often and walking out with my marital compensation in gold.
Very happy I am looking in to this now.聽 100% not interested in buying anything in Morocco.聽 It聽 is way too complicated.

Regarding the suggestion to look up the Islamic inheritance calculator..... lol.... what for 0 is a easy number to calculate : p!聽 In short ... I need to get my cut now lol.聽

Wow I just thought of this!!!聽 Ironically the really sucky amount of money a wife gets if her husband dies might be a wife's additional incentive to do her best to keep her husband alive as long as possible.聽 Interesting ....

According to Islam, the money a wife makes is 100% hers to do as she pleases. The husband has to support his family regardless (house, food, and clothes). Also, if he is the oldest male sibling and if his father died, he would be responsible to support his mother. Same goes for his sisters, if he has any that lost their husbands.

The good thing about Islamic inheritance is that the money stays within the family. An example for non-Muslim, my mother divorced at very early age of 27 with 4 kids and worked all her life to support her family by herself. My father was a sperm donor, alcoholic, poor, and never paid child support. When she got re-married and waited after us kids to graduate high school and college, her and her husband bought a nice house with help of my mother's money. When she died (they had been together for at least 40 years before and after marriage), her children got nothing; it all went to her husband that has no blood relation to us. He soon got re-married after my mother's death and sold that house for $250,000 USD and bought a new home, so most likely we will not get a penny when he dies and all of it will go to his new wife's family which she has grandchildren.

Well that聽 is not what has happend.聽 After we had our child I got a really good job and make way more money then my husband.聽 Though ironically we have the same amount of assets and he may even have more on his end.聽 His money which is mainly from inheritance is basically trapped in Morocco and most is locked in to land.

So if I went to live in Morocco he could support me..... but I would loose my high income and the perks accosiated with that and risk getting nothing if something should happen to him.聽 聽But he can't support me to a desirable level in Canada.聽 Also our desired standards of living are very different.聽 He is okay with living a simple life..... I am not when I have the resources to have a more comfortable life

So this idea of living off the husband's income does not work in countries like Canada especially in major cities.聽 Very few families can survive on 1 income and if they do they are going to have a very basic life.

As an example.聽 A man and woman get married.聽 Then after a few years the husband still make a $25 000, but the wife gets a job making $100 000.聽 Is it reasonable that the husband pays for everything while the wife has all this money?聽 The wife can afford a very good lifestyle living in a nicer house, driving a nicer car, can travel, shop or dine out, be entertained in nicer places.聽 The husband after paying for even basic needs at very basic levels might not even have enough to cover of all the normal household bills.聽 So this idea suggested in Islamic teachings does not really work in my society.

How fair would it be if a husband can only afford to buy bread and water to live on but the wife has her own money and lives on bread, water given to her by her husband and area I, lobster and fresh fruit and cake she buys fro her own money?

Sorry, but that may be your mother's fault.聽 She should of had a will.
I have various types of insurance and investments.聽 Even though married my husband is not the the full benefactor for any of these resources.
Knowing that I get nothing from my husband's estate in Morocco I am considering removing his name off our house title.
If we ever got divorced I am not giving him anything even if I make more money because he had just as much stuff in Morocco.
Seriously think I just need to help him start moving money out of Morocco and changing stuff in to my daughter's name.

I don't believe taking choices away from people really helps.

Understood, but you live in Canada and your not Muslim, so your money is his money and vise-versa. When your married, both incomes is as one. That's the standard for married couples in non-Islamic countries.聽 Your husband could sell some of his land and bring that money into Canada. I've read this could be difficult to do though, but can be done through proper channels. Just have to show proof of paper trail through documentation and convert the money.

urbanshopping101 wrote:

Sorry, but that may be your mother's fault.聽 She should of had a will.
I have various types of insurance and investments.聽 Even though married my husband is not the the full benefactor for any of these resources.
Knowing that I get nothing from my husband's estate in Morocco I am considering removing his name off our house title.
If we ever got divorced I am not giving him anything even if I make more money because he had just as much stuff in Morocco.
Seriously think I just need to help him start moving money out of Morocco and changing stuff in to my daughter's name.

I don't believe taking choices away from people really helps.

I don't know the law in Canada, but in the USA and in the State of Florida, after a divorced, spouse is entitled to half of the sale value of primary house and percentage of the total assets accumulated during their marriage. If spouse dies while still married, primary house is 100% living spouse in Florida. Even if spouse's name not on deed or title.

urbanshopping101 wrote:

As an example.聽 A man and woman get married.聽 Then after a few years the husband still make a $25 000, but the wife gets a job making $100 000.聽 Is it reasonable that the husband pays for everything while the wife has all this money?聽 The wife can afford a very good lifestyle living in a nicer house, driving a nicer car, can travel, shop or dine out, be entertained in nicer places.聽 The husband after paying for even basic needs at very basic levels might not even have enough to cover of all the normal household bills.聽 So this idea suggested in Islamic teachings does not really work in my society.

How fair would it be if a husband can only afford to buy bread and water to live on but the wife has her own money and lives on bread, water given to her by her husband and area I, lobster and fresh fruit and cake she buys fro her own money?

I understand the point you're making. But 100K jobs are not available to all and anyone. So if a woman comes from a very good background with a potential earning power of 100K, and decides to marry a man below her status, who can only earn a quarter of that, then she has made the wrong choice in marriage if she is looking to live a certain lifestyle. She should simply marry a man who can afford it or be willing to help him out.

urbanshopping101 wrote:

Well that聽 is not what has happend.聽 After we had our child I got a really good job and make way more money then my husband.聽 Though ironically we have the same amount of assets and he may even have more on his end.聽 His money which is mainly from inheritance is basically trapped in Morocco and most is locked in to land.

So if I went to live in Morocco he could support me..... but I would loose my high income and the perks accosiated with that and risk getting nothing if something should happen to him.聽 聽But he can't support me to a desirable level in Canada.聽 Also our desired standards of living are very different.聽 He is okay with living a simple life..... I am not when I have the resources to have a more comfortable life

So this idea of living off the husband's income does not work in countries like Canada especially in major cities.聽 Very few families can survive on 1 income and if they do they are going to have a very basic life.

As an example.聽 A man and woman get married.聽 Then after a few years the husband still make a $25 000, but the wife gets a job making $100 000.聽 Is it reasonable that the husband pays for everything while the wife has all this money?聽 The wife can afford a very good lifestyle living in a nicer house, driving a nicer car, can travel, shop or dine out, be entertained in nicer places.聽 The husband after paying for even basic needs at very basic levels might not even have enough to cover of all the normal household bills.聽 So this idea suggested in Islamic teachings does not really work in my society.

How fair would it be if a husband can only afford to buy bread and water to live on but the wife has her own money and lives on bread, water given to her by her husband and area I, lobster and fresh fruit and cake she buys fro her own money?

This is what I would recommend if you want the marriage to work. Live in Canada until retirement age. Keep your money there and setup a converter account in Morocco, so you can transfer money into it when needed using money exchange service like transferwise or something similar. Your husband/your family can always travel back and forth each year to Morocco in time being to see his family.

XB23 wrote:

urbanshopping101 wrote:

As an example.聽 A man and woman get married.聽 Then after a few years the husband still make a $25 000, but the wife gets a job making $100 000.聽 Is it reasonable that the husband pays for everything while the wife has all this money?聽 The wife can afford a very good lifestyle living in a nicer house, driving a nicer car, can travel, shop or dine out, be entertained in nicer places.聽 The husband after paying for even basic needs at very basic levels might not even have enough to cover of all the normal household bills.聽 So this idea suggested in Islamic teachings does not really work in my society.

How fair would it be if a husband can only afford to buy bread and water to live on but the wife has her own money and lives on bread, water given to her by her husband and area I, lobster and fresh fruit and cake she buys fro her own money?

I understand the point you're making. But 100K jobs are not available to all and anyone. So if a woman comes from a very good background with a potential earning power of 100K, and decides to marry a man below her status, who can only earn a quarter of that, then she has made the wrong choice in marriage if she is looking to live a certain lifestyle. She should simply marry a man who can afford it or be willing to help him out.

I agree with this.

urbanshopping101 wrote:

lol .... My husband is going to buy that train of thought.聽 Despite being married to me my husband is actually religious.聽 For example he dies not have to fast for Ramadan for medical reasons.... but despite this exemption he still fasts.聽 Why?聽 Because he thinks that if he dies why fasting it is God's will.聽 Only god knows when we will die.
Despite living in s multicultural country my husband will not work on Friday unless his he is able to leave to go to Mosque on Friday.

Also my husband has actually said according to religious teachings a Muslim can't give their money to a non Muslim or something like that.聽 So even if it is not a legal issues my husband struggles with doing things that seem to be against Islamic principals.聽 For example he won't wear gold.聽 He will occasionally wear a silver necklace I bought him as a gift.聽 His explanation is that religious teachings suggest gold jewlery is only for women ... men should not try to wear or do things to look like women ... or something like that.聽 He has mellowed out a bit since we were first married about some things ... but has not hugely changed his views on core things.

I always said embrace humanity before any religions . But i can understand why ur husband is like that and why he cant give his money to non muslim all this teaching though i believe its not from GOd its from what his muslim clerics understood and interpreted however the the shcools teached them that enemy is jweish and christains and if you know how much hate in their duaa in the prayer聽 of friday say about jweish and christains .

It is what i call wahabizm its an ideology come from saudi arabia and spread to other western arab world using the petrodollars

I believe ur husband will never integrate in candian society even if he become a canadian .
Another things the will is not accepted in sharia law Narrated AbuHurayrah:

I heard the Messenger of Allah (锓�) say: Allah has appointed for everyone who has a right what is due to him, and no bequest must be made to an heir.
But anyway the point that i want to make her the sharia law is law made by clerics not god to control people and thats the situation of your husband .

Take just an example and i am sure of that he will never say happy Christmas cuz its against to his relgions聽 and so on ....

The laws are state specific in the USA and province specific in Canada....but most importantly I am not looking to get divorced anyways.聽 My truth core adgenda is to protect the best interests of each member of my household,my daughter, husband and myself.聽 I want to consider each option and pros and cons.

My husband did really leave his entire life to marry me.聽 He was not poor or looking for a way out.聽 I did pull him from his quite comfortable life in a small city in to my world.聽 In fairness I know he has given up a lot to be married to me.聽 But I think at some point I am going to be expected to some extent to return the favour.....but what will this cost me.

If I have a great job that is adequate alone to support the 3 of us in a safer more stable country.... I would be nuts to give that up to go live in Morocco especially now really understanding the laws are not favourable for women and that something happens to my husband I will get nothing and could literally actually be kicked out of the property/ our home like a dog due to my religion..., despite how long we have been married and the fact that I have been predominantly supporting my family in Canada due to my higher income.聽 This is a really bad deal for both me and my daughter.

I don鈥檛 think my husband is really getting this.聽 He understands what I am telling him .... but the depth of this issue is not sinking in.聽 聽I don鈥檛 feel comfortable in Morocco to live and the more I think about it the less appealing it feels.聽 I also don鈥檛 like us being apart.聽 Being physically apart for 1-2 months a year is already difficult.

When we got married we both did not really have anything of our own.聽 We both were living with our parents.聽 I had no idea I would one day get a great job.聽 He had no idea his father and then mother would soon die and leave him a significant inheritance.聽 He paid for our wedding in Morocco and my parents paid for our wedding in Canada.聽 We were young, got married and life happened very fast after that.

I fairness all the resource should be family resources.聽 Neither of us are looking to get divorced.聽 It is not really like I want to work .... but I would be stupid to give up my job as it would be a dangerous move for our family.聽 If I was less responsible I was live to sit in butt in Morocco playing housewife ( okay .... lady of house... because we would hire someone to cook and clean while I trained to be something bohemian like some sort of artist lol )..... but I don鈥檛 want to get stuck in Morocco struggling.

Lol.... I don鈥檛 want to see is family.
I have had the blessing of not having to deal with them for over a decade.聽 God bless people have to deal with their in laws on a regular basis.

I want to stay as far away as possible.聽 If I had to live in Morocco I would go nuts.聽 Every second someone from the tribe would be just showing up.聽 It would be a revolving door.

Regarding the Christmas comment lol.聽 That is actually true.聽
But that is the irony of our marriage.
We challenge each other on very fundamental levels.... yet we are married.
My husband does not 鈥渉ate鈥� people of other faiths.
He is integrated in to Canadian culture.... Canada is not Europe or the USA .... we less about Nationalism and more about inclusion.聽 My husband鈥檚 views have really changed since living here and being able to directly interact with people of all cultures and faiths in a regular basis.
I really want to see how he acts in Morocco this summer.

Well love always win wen it comes to religions
Good luck :6

I love my Moroccan in-laws. They treat me and my young adult children like family and food is great when visiting them. In my case, the more I'd visited Morocco over the past 20 years, the more it grew on me. Yes, it gets crazy when there's a house full of family with young kids. That's why you need your own place for some peace and quite. Inshallah, when I retire, we are planning to get our own place in Marrakesh, since this is where my wife is from聽 and to be close to family and I want another place by the beach, because I like fishing and to get away from the heat of Marrakesh in the Summer.

Like I'd recommended before, live in Canada until retirement to build some wealth and be debt free, save the money that Allah has given you and give Zakat to the needy. Visit Morocco with your husband as much as you can. This should work for the both of you.

it is not that I don't literally don't like them.
But in terms of my own personality, I have realized I am the type of person that likes to go off and do their own thing.
I don't and feel very resentful towards people impeding my ability to do stuff.
Also please note being like this as a woman is viewed differently then as if I was a man.
In Morocco and in specifically my husband's family their use this social constraints to control women grossly.聽 They do that here to a lesser extent, but I am on my home turf and know how to deal with people that try to hold me back.
I am in many ways like cat roaming around the city when I have free time.聽 I like being outside exploring things.聽 I like to be free to come and go... day or night.
I am not use to the mundane structure of traditional Moroccan family life.聽 I often tease my husband for his lifestyle... I call it the "eat, sleep, pray cycle of existence".聽 Where as my lifestyle is different.聽 I wake up.聽 If I don't have a meeting at work I show up any time between 8 to 12 and work for 8 hours ... or more or less depending on what is going on or my mood.聽 I go for lunch when I feel like it.聽 I see an ad or an e-mail for a show or concert or see something that inspires me and I pursue it.聽 I don't really need or want a regimental lifestyle.聽 I need to have options and the option to be engaged in something at all times.
I don't want to stuck in a house all day cooking, cleaning and all that nonsense and waiting for the next pray or meal.
In Morocco I would get in a lot more trouble living like this as I would have my nosey tribe of in-laws minding my business.
I already have mistrust and some scores to settle with a few of my husband's family members specifically the wife of one of his 1/2 brothers that decided to say to my husband he should consider marrying this women she knew so she could take care of his mother and have children with a Muslim woman.聽 Yet this same pieces of garbage are all smiles and coming to hug and kiss me when I see them in person.聽 My husband put her in her place by tell her that if she liked the woman so much why did she not suggest that her own husband marry her.聽 I liked my father and mother-in-law, a lot of his nieces or nephews I think I could get a long with... but the entire tribe and don't want to deal with.聽 They are so lucky I don't speak Arabic or I would be telling them off left right and centre.聽 As I don't speak the language they assume I would be putting up with their nonsense.聽 They have no idea how out spoken and strong willed I am lol.聽 Then on top of that these people are so clueless regarding what their kids are really up to and I don't want to be blame because I am the "Western Liberal Christian Devil corrupting them" as I would be an easy scape goat.

One of the main perks of having my own money is that I don't have to put up with anyone's nonsense.聽 If I don't like the situation or the company I can grab my stuff and go somewhere else.聽 Also in general my sisters in laws are pretty dumb ( ex low education levels and the plague that accompanies that ).聽 I don't like women like that in general and would not want to hang out with people like that so it is just and all around punishment.聽 I would describe them as people I tolerate not people I would enjoy being around.聽 If I did have to crash in Morocco for a while I would be hanging around people the tribe would likely not like and I know that in itself would put stress on my husband as they would be bugging my husband about his non-conforming wife.

Okay I am going to try to stop complaining now lol !
Thanks to all of you for the input.聽 It has really been thought provoking.
I think I have actually finally realized my anxiety about most of this is all about control.聽 I am use to have a lot of earthy control over my day to day life and the idea of living somewhere where I can't speak the language and the culture makes my chosen lifestyle a lot more complicated concerns me.聽

At the end of the day life is always evolving.聽 I have always been innovative with how I spend my time .... so I am sure if I did get stuck in Morocco I would have a few hissy fits here and there.... but would find somethings to do to keep life interesting.聽 Also luckily there is an expat community I could tap in to.聽 I also realize there is a theatre scene in Morocco, lots of social causes I could get involved with or I could just become an artists, a tour guide, a comedian playing out skits on my own youtube channel or learn how to be a street performer to work in jemaa el fna.聽 My bad behaviour might make my husband want to drag me back to Canada on the first flight lol ; )!