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I know this is not exactly your question .... but do you realize if you get in to problems in Morocco, being a Moroccan citizen may work against you?

This isÌý sort of the reason I would be concerned about myself or daughter getting dual nationalities.Ìý If one of the Nationalities holds more global liberties and benefits then the other.

I noticed your profile says you were living in Toronto, Canada.Ìý If so I would suggest asking the

Toronto Moroccan Association Ìý
( They are on Facebook too)

or

The Consulate General of Morocco in Canada.Ìý It it in Montreal, but some times they come to Toronto.Ìý If you contact the Toronto Moroccan Association they sometimes let people know when they are coming to Toronto if you are still looking for information when you are back in Canada.



Also wanted to mention as a side note ... if you have to deal with the Canadian Embassy in Rabat and they don't have the same information posted in French and English or staff at any level are unable to assist you in English they are violating your rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom and you need to report the concern to the Federal Government in Canada.

Good luck.

TOÌý :Ìý Ìý urbanshopping101

Thank you for your response but that is NOT the question!

Have a nice day,

Ali

Okay ... I will attempt at a better response.

This link addresses residency from a more personal narrative:




This link addresses citizenship:




Summary:

Excluding exceptional cases, a foreigner applying for the Moroccan citizenship must fulfill the following conditions (article 11):[2]
1.Have regular and continuous residence in Morocco during the 5 years preceding the application
2.Be of Legal age at the time of the application
3.Be mentally and physically fit
4.Have a record of good conduct and reputation in addition to not being convicted of crime or any offense punishable by Moroccan law
5.Have sufficient knowledge of the Arabic language
6.Be able to provide for themselves.

So you have to be a residents for 5 years then after five years be able to meet the 6 criteria mentioned in the summary.

It appears that if you marry someone from Morocco you still need to reside mainly there for years.... but some of the other criteria may not be needed.

Regarding the benefit of being a Moroccan National.... considering more people are trying to leave Morocco then stay ... I am guessing the benefit of being a "Moroccan National/ Citizen" it is not all the great.Ìý I have been told only a National/ Citizen can own certain types of land.

If anyone else does respond to this it would be interesting to understand how they secure they felt knowing that they have to exit Morocco every 90 days or risk getting in trouble.

Well I'm a Moroccan in USA and I can't imagine a better place to live than morocco. After 25 years in the states l'm leaving to go back for good, yes some people's are leaving but look ho is coming back from all over you name it: USA, France, Germany....etc just to name a few. You can trash Morocco as much as you want the reality is people know Morocco as good place and a country that cares about its citizens.
To the guy how is seeking to be a citizen you know what's best for you in your heart just fellow it.

I have just been given a 10 year residency card.Ìý After being here one year.Ìý I can go back to the states to visit but love Morocco.

Dear Elassri1

Morocco is great for people who have money.Ìý Even better if you are Man and you have money.

If you don't have money it is brutal.

Hence why many Moroccans including the ones in my husband's family leave Morocco and come back with money.Ìý When they leave their country to make money they are often treated less favourable and live in less comfort.Ìý I know many professionals that come to Canada from Morocco.Ìý These people had great lives in Morocco.Ìý They are educated, well paid, live in big nice homes with help etc when they leave their country they can't pay someone a few dollars to be their domestic servant and can't walk around pretending they are walking 'gods on earth" ignoring the large volumes of poor people live outside their economically superior bubble.Ìý They can't bride their way out of trouble too.Ìý Their quality of life goes does drastically and for these people YES of course they want to go back.

I look at my husband's family in France and Italy.Ìý In these countries they get paid poorly compared to local people from these countries.Ìý They live in less desirable areas and get treated a lot worse then nationals from these countries even if born there.Ìý When they go to Morocco they rent a fancy car, they have inherited properties to live in and walking around like they are someone special.Ìý They get treated better because they are walking with foreign money.

Come back to Morocco with you pockets empty and then start talking about how great Morocco is.

There is no doubt there are many beautiful attributes of Morocco as a country ... but the same can be said about most countries.

Also my husband has the same attitude you are expressing, so I am familiar with the nationalist delusion you are expression ..... he also have never really had to "work" hard to get anything in life unlike people like myself.

Also your gender greatly will impact how you enjoy Morocco.

Also just I have come to notice that lots of people that come from outside Morocco that get sucked in to this fantasy about how "Amazing Morocco" fall in to a few groups.

They had really boring generic lives in their country of Birth and they go to Morocco and because they look different and are from somewhere different they sudden feel special.

From reading through the Morocco thread the majority of the foreign people posting are asking about Marriage related stuff.Ìý So I got to wonder .... if that is another motive.Ìý Suddenly every "not so attractive and desirable person who basically gets ignored where they come from suddenly comes in to contact who someone from Morocco considerably younger and/ or considerably more attractive and they fall under the delusion that in Morocco people don't care about these things.Ìý

Morocco and anywhere else in the world is good depending on who you are and how much money you have.

Sorry to bust your bubble... money and gender mater greatly in regards to this topic.

If you have the right passport and walk in with the right currency you can play around in Morocco on a budget and have the opportunity to leave make money and fatten up your bank account.

Being poor sucks anywhere... being poor in Morocco compared to in Western countries sucks a lot more.

Ya Rayah ....

To Cathylesher

Then can you explain to the original thread poster how you got your residency so fast for so long?

You go to the local Gendarmerie and get a list of required paperwork and start the process.Ìý I was just given the 10 year card and was surprised.Ìý However I am retired and have sufficient funds.

To Cathylesher ...

See there you have it $$$$
Most countries in the world including my own is happy to welcome anyone brining in money.
You bring money and no drama ... your in.
This is just good business.

You age also makes a difference in the transition.
I am not retired and my attitude reflects that fact that I know I need to make money to save to ensure when I do retired I can be comfortable.

Morocco is a great place to spend your money ... but sucks to make money for the average person if they want to be able to move back to a Western Country later.

This is dollars and sense talking not sentiment.

It is the same process for anyone wanting to apply for residency and yes age and work history and money help alot

Thanks Cathylesher for sharing that info.
Knowing that you got a 10 year residents in the first year makes me not completely close the door on considering trying out Morocco for a bit once my husband and I are retired.Ìý I don't think my husband understand that he actually can't live in Morocco full time once retired unless he wants to loose his Canadian pension and old age benefits.

I have kept my pensions but they are from private companies in the US.Ìý Also Social Security is still available for me.Ìý The 10 year is my second year in Morocco.Ìý First year is one year for most.Ìý I have everything direct deposited to my bank in the states and transfer funds as needed to my Moroccan bank.
The US is a cooperating country with Morocco so could have my Social Security direct deposited to my bank here but have decided to keep it in the states.

To Cathylesher

Things could change a lot by the time we are ready to retire and that is several decades away, but to my understanding talking to my parents friends some of whom live part time in Canada and part time in other countries that are retired that the Canadian government expects you to spend so much time in Canada out of the year or they limit certain benefits ... like Health Coverage and drug coverage with in the area of Canada where you live.Ìý So it is a bit different in Canada and the USA.Ìý Move the money from Canada to Morocco is not the biggest deal.Ìý But getting it back out seems more tricky.Ìý So if we bought in Morocco, wanted to sell and take the money back to Canada... that might not be so easy.

This train of thought I was trying to express to the original poster.
If he is coming from Canada to Morocco and wants to get Moroccan Nationality there does not seems to be huge perks tied with that if you are coming from Canada.Ìý Coming from Morocco to Canada with Canadian money is great, but once the Canadian money runs out and you are depending on supporting yourself with a Moroccan income the situation changes.Ìý For instance how much money would he need to make in Morocco to buy a ticket back to Canada?

My family also comes from a developing country which is a tropical paradise if you HAVE $$$.Ìý If you don't it can be hell on earth.Ìý People with money educate there kids outside of the country.Ìý They work outside of the country and bring back foreign money buy up all the business and land which allows them to grow their own personal wealth drastically and cause locals who lived in the country all their lives to be blocked from improving their own quality of life.Ìý I see this very clearly when looking at cities like Casablanca.

Some people choose to live day by day and other want to factor in the future.Ìý No certain best option for each person, but also no harm looking at the situations for all points.

I'd like to thank everyone who has commented on this thread so far.Ìý ÌýWhen I posted my question it was simply to inquire about the process of becoming a citizen.

I did not expect a heated or passionate debate about the pros and cons of living in Morocco. Personally, I don't think we can generalize and paint everyone with the same brush as we all have different experiences.

Every country has positives and negatives and Morocco is no exception. A healthy debate is good but we have to keep things in perspective.