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1happkamper wrote:

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Can anyone shed more light on this topic... Especially links to the legality of a" business visa ". Thanks

Use the search function.

This subject is regularly discussed.

We are not supposed to promote individual Visa agents here in the forum.

If you want the contact info for my agent, send me a private message.

Meanwhile, don't overthink it

Google DN visa.聽 Since you are 68 and 8 years retired I鈥檓 going to let you review the risks and pitfalls of the DN visa on your own and you can decide if you want to take the risk seeing as you are only applying for it for the visa benefit.聽 Do a search here on the keyword 鈥渂lacklist鈥� before you get the visa.

Thanks for your replies.

I have searched this forum and the only results I found did indeed mention "blacklisted".

Nowhere did I see a post that my question addressed ..a link to the Vietnamese law regarding business visa requiremnts.聽 ...in English or Vietnamese.

With regard to searching "DN Visa" yes... I already did this.. visa services can get me a business visa..but again...the requirements are not explained in detail!

As for my age. What does that have to do with anything? ..and 8 years retired ..yes i am..again..how is this relevant to my question?

Did you read where I stated that I had contacted the Vietnam consul in SFO?

The comment We are not supposed to promote individual Visa agents here in the forum.". Fine, this is of course understood. I never asked you to.

Like my post stated, the topic of the actual legal requirements for obtaining a business visa seem to be a secret. The answers I have gotten thus far are also cryptic. ha ha.

1happkamper wrote:

Thanks for your replies.

I have searched this forum and the only results I found did indeed mention "blacklisted".

Here is a very recent post of mine:

expat. com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=879403&p=3#4787095

If, after reading that, you need further clarification, please send me a private message.

For many reasons, I am simply very tired of discussing this issue here in the forum.

1happkamper wrote:

Nowhere did I see a post that my question addressed ..a link to the Vietnamese law regarding business visa requiremnts.聽 ...in English or Vietnamese.

Go for it:

1happkamper wrote:

With regard to searching "DN Visa" yes... I already did this.. visa services can get me a business visa..but again...the requirements are not explained in detail!

When you find those requirements detailed to your satisfaction, let us know.

1happkamper wrote:

As for my age. What does that have to do with anything? ..and 8 years retired ..yes i am..again..how is this relevant to my question?

Because you clearly aren't asking about how to set up a business, and your age plus your own statement that you are retired (plus reading your other forum posts on your profile) makes it pretty clear that you are primarily looking to get what will be for you--in essence--a retirement visa.

1happkamper wrote:

Did you read where I stated that I had contacted the Vietnam consul in SFO?

Yes, and the "detailed" response you got from them is virtually identical to the "detailed" response you will read when you translate the law.

1happkamper wrote:

The comment We are not supposed to promote individual Visa agents here in the forum.". Fine, this is of course understood. I never asked you to.

You asked for information.

My agent in Hanoi (where immigration is centralized) is my most trusted source for information on how the Category DN 12-Month Business Visa for U.S. Citizens works.

1happkamper wrote:

Like my post stated, the topic of the actual legal requirements for obtaining a business visa seem to be a secret. The answers I have gotten thus far are also cryptic. ha ha.

Perhaps that's because you are essentially asking to read and interpret the law yourself.

IF you want to know how that visa works in reality, read my post I linked to above.

Cheers!

1happkamper wrote:

As for my age. What does that have to do with anything? ..and 8 years retired ..yes i am..again..how is this relevant to my question?

OK, I will be more blunt this time.聽 You are trying to game the system with a business visa.聽 You have no legitimate reason to obtain one.聽 Those that are here on DN visas for the intended purpose are the ones that eventually suffer because people try to use a DN visa for a retirement visa and it gets harder and harder to get one for legitimate reasons.聽 You may have read that in July even the 1 year tourist visa will require a border run every 30 days instead of 90 and you may be trying to avoid that.聽 That new 30 rule is a reaction by the Vietnamese government to people abusing the tourist visa so they in turn make it more difficult for everyone.聽 People that use the DN visa for its intended purpose don't want to see people start to abuse that one and make their lives more difficult.

I am interested in this question too, and am a little disappointed by the number of questions that don't specifically address the OP's question (although I understand concerns about ppl gaming the system).

I have a legit business interest in Vietnam. I have heard from many Vietnam businesses with foreign partners that they just use the tourist visa to invite their foreign partners because it was so easy compared to biz visa. Not that that helps, but it shows the amount of confusion regarding business visa.

cocobipbip wrote:

I am interested in this question too, and am a little disappointed by the number of questions that don't specifically address the OP's question (although I understand concerns about ppl gaming the system).

I have a legit business interest in Vietnam. I have heard from many Vietnam businesses with foreign partners that they just use the tourist visa to invite their foreign partners because it was so easy compared to biz visa. Not that that helps, but it shows the amount of confusion regarding business visa.

A tourist visa won't allow you to work, just visit.聽

If you are going to work for the business in some capacity, then you should apply for a work permit. Best you talk with a solicitor that deals in these matters.

Well I am not trying to "work" as a employee. I think that is the distinction between work visa and biz visa in most countries. A worker is earning wage salary, benefits etc. A business owner injects capital and may or not "work", rather builds services and hires others etc. This isn't consider labour.

cocobipbip wrote:

Well I am not trying to "work" as a employee. I think that is the distinction between work visa and biz visa in most countries. A worker is earning wage salary, benefits etc. A business owner injects capital and may or not "work", rather builds services and hires others etc. This isn't consider labour.

If its a short term thing then a DN visa is suitable up to three months. Seeing as you havent stated a time frame, I just presumed you may be staying longer.

cocobipbip wrote:

Well I am not trying to "work" as a employee. I think that is the distinction between work visa and biz visa in most countries. A worker is earning wage salary, benefits etc. A business owner injects capital and may or not "work", rather builds services and hires others etc. This isn't consider labour.

I see that you are in the process of getting married. Once you get you marriage certificate you can apply for the 5 year VEC.

cocobipbip wrote:

Well I am not trying to "work" as a employee. I think that is the distinction between work visa and biz visa in most countries. A worker is earning wage salary, benefits etc. A business owner injects capital and may or not "work", rather builds services and hires others etc. This isn't consider labour.

Then you need a DT visa (investor visa) and a work permit exemption.聽 The exemption allows you to take income from the company as an investor.聽 Pretty simple to do.聽 A lawyer can set it up for a few hundred dollars after you get the business license.