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We just completed the process, my VITEM XI through a Brazilian Consulate in the USA, followed by the successful final CRNM process in SP. Although I did all of the paperwork, which was not difficult, we still hired a facilitator, in the end, to complete the process with the Police Federal in SP.  In retrospect, and with your slightly "out of the box" questions, I would highly recommend you hire a facilitator.  He had the exact answers, the first time, without error, and easily had our appointment with the Police Federal when no one else could get one here online.

Thank you for your response, rraypo. We're going to take our documents to the cartório next week and see what they say.

Is there anyone else on here who has a união estável?

I went through the process many years ago. There was not a waiting period, unless you count having to wait for many docs to be translated, apostille, and shipped to us.
It was simple. Go with your documents and 2 witnesses, sign all, and went to another area and was married. Then provides all to the PF. They help me many times.
The longest wait was for the card and opening a bank account.

Thanks, Texanbrazil. We've been enduring the "waiting for documents" part of the process for the last month, that hasn't been fun.

Do you have any information on the answer this question? "Some sites say the relationship has to be at least 1 year old before you can get a união estável, others say it's 4 years. Which is accurate?"

No, it does not simulate the time frame. Just have proper documents for the domestic relationship.  While waiting. we went to the US and were married.
Apostilled. and presented to BR consulate. Went to PF with the same and approved all that day and sent it to Brasillia.

Looking over the checklist of documents we need to take to the PF, the list includes:

- "Certidão de nascimento ou casamento para comprovação do parentesco entre o requerente e o brasileiro ou imigrante beneficiário de autorização de residência, ou documento hábil que comprove o vínculo"

and

- "Comprovante do vínculo de união estável entre o requerente e o brasileiro ou imigrante beneficiário de autorização de residência"

It sounds to me like the união estável document should cover both of these requirements, but if that's the case why are they separate on the checklist?

Does anyone have information on this?

OHBrazil wrote:

Looking over the checklist of documents we need to take to the PF, the list includes:

- "Certidão de nascimento ou casamento para comprovação do parentesco entre o requerente e o brasileiro ou imigrante beneficiário de autorização de residência, ou documento hábil que comprove o vínculo"

and

- "Comprovante do vínculo de união estável entre o requerente e o brasileiro ou imigrante beneficiário de autorização de residência"

It sounds to me like the união estável document should cover both of these requirements, but if that's the case why are they separate on the checklist?

Does anyone have information on this?

Not sure if you went the VITEM Visa route first or not, I did, and our recent appointment with PF in SP was easy and fast!

The people were friendly and professional. We waited outside in line for about 30-minutes, waited twice inside for no more than 5-minutes each, and the appointment took about 15-minutes.  I had used a facilitator and he had the process down pat and easily had our appointment.

He had asked for a letter from the PF stating I was pre-approved for a bank account, which they had ready for me, printed, in my name. Then, we went straight to a bank and had two accounts opened, a debit card, and a credit card in less time than it took to get into the bank.  Getting those fingerprints done at the bank took longer than our entire inside time with the PF.

For my appointment, I needed this list and nothing more:
•    Proof of address, I used a telephone bill and that was perfect
        Your original Passport
o    Photocopies of all passport pages, including the most recent entry stamp page into Brazil
•    Original VITEM XI application
•    CPF, both the original and a photocopy of both sides
•    GRU payment form
•    Proof of payment, GRU
o    You must pay this bill in any bank agency (stay tuned to the payment deadline). It must be paid prior to your appointment at the Federal Police. Make sure to keep the payment slip.
o    – Carteira de Registro Nacional Migratório (It was R$ 204,77, but I have not looked for two months).
•    My original birth certificate, (they did not want it translated since I had a VITEM XI Visa
•    Marriage certificate, (translated from English)
•    Brazilian marriage registration

My hubby is in his home country and he is going to apply for the VITEM XI, then he?s gonna come to Brazil and apply for the CRNM (which is the same thing as a RNE/RNM, correct?). We are just wondering if having the VITEM XI will make things easier? We are confused about the documents we gonna have to show the Polícia Federal and if we gonna have to sworn translate/legalize his documents beforehand (like his police clearance, bc he?s already showing his PCC to get his VITEM XI).

I showed all the same documents at the PF that I showed at the consulate before arriving in addition to the 2 declarations in the checklist and the proof of payment for the CRNM.

PF has the final say. Do not forget the "Police report" no older than 90 days to give to the PF.

Hi!

In your case, I understand that, at the moment, you are not immediately entitled to the family reunion visa. This is because, in the current scenario, considering your explanation, you fulfill only one of the various requirements that may be required in cases of foreigners who intend to apply for the Brazilian family reunion visa based on a stable union. I mean, you only have an effective relationship with the Brazilian with whom you intend to family reunion to.

However, these in itself does not make you eligible for the family reunion visa application and, as I said, this is the reason why you are not immediately entitled to the visa.

In any case, there is no reason to worry, because the fact that you are not eligible for the residence permit right now DOES NOT MEAN that you will never be eligible for the residence permit in Brazil, because, in fact, there are some ways to become you eligible.

06/24/21

gabbiecorrea wrote:

My hubby is in his home country and he is going to apply for the VITEM XI, then he?s gonna come to Brazil and apply for the CRNM (which is the same thing as a RNE/RNM, correct?). .

That is correct.  The CRNM replaced the CIE (Carteira de Identidade de Estrangeiro, sometimes inaccurately called RNE) when the current Law of Migration went into effect in November 2017.  Valid CIEs that people had been issued prior to that continued to be valid and have been treated as CRNMs every since.