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I鈥檝e experienced this in agadir. Even if I鈥檓 very close to the lady I鈥檓 getting to know, In agadir we had to act like strangers so we don鈥檛 draw attention of the police. Especially if the Moroccan lady Is married. Apparently it鈥檚 not allowed to be with another man.

By Moroccan law (based on Sharia), an unmarried Moroccan woman (especially if they are wearing hijab) cannot be seen with a random male person, whether 'friend' or stranger. In most cases, they should be accompanied by their Wali: father, brother, grandfather, uncle, etc. Though, this rule is quite lax in bigger cities like Casablanca, because of Christian and Jewish populous, but in smaller cities, the police may bother you, either because they have nothing better to do or may actually be seeing something 'fishy'. Usually the latter, because even though more than 90% identify as being Muslim, a significant populous identify as being non-religious, so the police who have been trained based on Sharia law are actually upholding the law.

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If you have known this person for 3 years and not had any conversations about the idea of being together, then you should broach it now than later - don't drag this out because you are wasting your own time, energy, money. And by 'now', I mean ask her personal questions related to marriage and being a couple (indirectly). This process shouldn't take more than 2 weeks maximum, especially if you are conversing at the rate you mentioned. In comparison, I am engaged and I didn't even converse daily with my Moroccan fianc茅e (due to timezone and work commitments).

If you sense she has feelings for you, then you should continue the conversation with more of those personal questions. If not, you can either stay friends (don't recommend because you will still have feelings) or end the friendship/relationship. There's no harm being direct. In fact, more men should be direct because being hesitant will lead to regret. If she is afraid/hesitant of the idea of being with you as a couple, then you need to be serious about the relationship. Don't play with her or her feelings. Some Moroccan woman genuinely fear being in a relationship with a foreigner can lead to them being alone (getting married for sex or worse, impregnated and then leaving the country or marriage is not involved and same scenario), after which they become unwanted by any other men. There seems to be a trend of this on this website. There's also the factor that her father or family may not approve of a foreign man marrying their daughter (which may be due to religious reasons or financial reasons; they will want to know if you are financially capable of taking care of another person). Anyway, be serious, be frank, be honest and see how it works out.

Thank you for your reply, this sounds exactly how she is with me when we are in the city, I don't mind so聽 much now as now I know its not me and just the way things are.

I was planning on telling her yesterday how I felt but as we were in the city then she was not that relaxed so I decided to wait, she left today to visit her grandmother for the week for Eid, we have spoken about children and marridge (just general conversation and not talking about with each other) so I know what she wants there.

We are going to Marrakech next week and she is taking a friend with her, I will tell her then how I feel, sometimes a girl needs advice from a friend.

Well you should always be upfront and honest with people especially a Moroccan lady. They would rather know the harsh truth so can move on and focus on another love than to be in a half hearted understanding and waste their youth sitting at home. There are so many cultural differences.

But honestly I was shocked how the lady I was with would behave so differently when In agadir, like walking well far from me, being irritable in restaurants and sit at the back and just watchful all the time. In smaller towns it wasn鈥檛 a problem we could walk hand in hand.

Abisaman, Addressing the second paragraph in your comments: This is Islamic culture and this is followed strictly especially Arab ladies based on my experience across many Arab countries as well as my interaction with South East Asians. Absolutely no public display of affection and there is no room for compromise either. I had some of those issues with my wife like lagging behind and I quickly resolved that one. Walk beside me or I go out alone do that's not an issue anymore.

My advise to men marrying eastern women, you chose to go eastern and Islamic so accept them as they are. Don't try to change them or else you may end up with exactly why you wanted an eastern woman in the first place. Make sure the relationship is based on love and not physical attraction聽 or some fetish for Arab/Muslim women. Check out her family thoroughly, no "I"s or Ts left undotted or crossed. My in-laws and the entire family adore me , alhamdulilah and I love them even more (good recipe for success). And when your wife will get up at night, on her own without being told, to get you water then you close the deal and don't let go. Finally and most importantly ask the Creator (ishtikhara prayer) if she is good for you.

Western women marrying Moroccan men, if Islam is not a part of the discussion move on. The bottom line Moroccans are Muslims first, regardless if practicing or not, and will always default to Islamic values and principles. This may not be in line with the free spirited and gender equality western mentality. Always rely on the guidance of your Creator by praying to Him then following your gut feelings.

Have you been giving her money regularly ? If so i hate to be the one breaking it to you but she probably has more feelings toward your wallet.

It can cause problems being seen in public with a 鈥渢ourist鈥�. If she is going out with you, and is respectful as you say, then chances are she likes you.聽 In my experience respectful Moroccans don鈥檛 associate with men the way you describe unless they like you.聽 Also, as a respectful woman, she will expect you to further the relationship.聽 Moroccan girls have no problem getting straight to the point, as is the case with many other Arab countries.聽 聽 If y鈥檃ll like/love each other, move forward.聽 If not, get it over with and stop wasting time.聽 Tell her casually you like her and would like being more than a friend and see her reaction and let that dictate your next move. If she is Muslim then she will expect talks of marriage not talks of dating or boyfriend/girlfriend.聽 Goodluck.

jahfrank wrote:

Abisaman, Addressing the second paragraph in your comments: This is Islamic culture and this is followed strictly especially Arab ladies based on my experience across many Arab countries as well as my interaction with South East Asians. Absolutely no public display of affection and there is no room for compromise either. I had some of those issues with my wife like lagging behind and I quickly resolved that one. Walk beside me or I go out alone do that's not an issue anymore.

My advise to men marrying eastern women, you chose to go eastern and Islamic so accept them as they are. Don't try to change them or else you may end up with exactly why you wanted an eastern woman in the first place. Make sure the relationship is based on love and not physical attraction聽 or some fetish for Arab/Muslim women. Check out her family thoroughly, no "I"s or Ts left undotted or crossed. My in-laws and the entire family adore me , alhamdulilah and I love them even more (good recipe for success). And when your wife will get up at night, on her own without being told, to get you water then you close the deal and don't let go. Finally and most importantly ask the Creator (ishtikhara prayer) if she is good for you.

Western women marrying Moroccan men, if Islam is not a part of the discussion move on. The bottom line Moroccans are Muslims first, regardless if practicing or not, and will always default to Islamic values and principles. This may not be in line with the free spirited and gender equality western mentality. Always rely on the guidance of your Creator by praying to Him then following your gut feelings.

I honestly don鈥檛 see which point of mine you are attempting to address. The writer is pointing out a peculiarly cautious attitude In agadir and I鈥檓 sharing that. As I鈥檓 Muslim and quite obviously so and with a Muslim woman we don鈥檛 stand out by any means. I鈥檝e never had a woman feel agitated I鈥檓 any city or any part of the Muslim world. Just in agadir and this is worth a discussion.

Where did anybody write about public displays of affection? There is very little arm in arm in Muslim countries but this is not what the discussion is about. Try to understand what the writer is addressing and then answer rather than feel you have something to express regardless of the forum or thread you are on.

Have a big heart and an endless wallet!

Thank you for your replies, since i wrote this she had been away for Eid visiting family and managed to get covid so have not had the chance to see her since, I did tell her I loved her by text message, not my best idea, she replied with 3 happy emojis with the 3 hearts, but no text so I am still wondering, when she is well I will speak to her properly when I see her as someone said I should not waste my time if it will not go beyond friendship.

I am not sending her money but she does work for me online as I have a business back home that is all internet based so I can work from anywhere and so can staff, so she is not using me for my money :-D

Hi I've read your posts briefly, because I know what it's all about. Firstly I'm from the UK myself, born in London.

Morroco is an amazing place, amazing culture and everything etc,

Have you met any morrocans in the UK? "that came from morroco, i have and personally it was a very big surprise for me that the girl I thought who was a decent normal girl, was actually an escort,i know this because I saw her profile, was dressing up in a hijab and niqab, claiming to be religious and a good future wife, i couldn't believe it, was rushing me to get married very quickly, and insisted after me picking at her faults that she is not after a british passport and permanent stay in the UK.

She had been in London a few years when I met her, had journeyed over from France and was actually from Rabat, but ofcourse was on some type of temporary visa, when I finally left her the truth came out, because I wasn't her target no more, she said she needs to get married ASAP to stay here hahaha, was even willing to give me anything for it, but I'm the type of guy I won't be made soft and give my life away just because some pretty morrocan girl is giving me sex, most weak guys would give in,

To your question, you could have a genuine interest from this girl, but i could give you recent real life examples of me and morrocan women,

Morrocan women will like you in a minute and roll with it, you could even be the most ugliest guy, they will still like you, ask the elder guys, 50 years ago casablanca was the place known for the bad stuff, if you go on muslima you will get 100 girls a day,

I was talking to 25 morrocan girls at 1 time when I was in marakech, on the website muslima, all were ready to meet up the very same day just after 1 message because I said I'm from London on holiday,

Secondly my friend who dosent get much girls in London, was getting girls left right and centre, and they were getting intimate with him, im sorry but you need to think about this,

Hi man listen if you really care about your time get that straight and tell her your feelings because no one else can do it for you what's gonna happen if you tell her? At least you gonna win yourself and your time.

Thanks for all your replies, all done and told her, she loves me as a friend, oh well, time to move on :-)

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