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Swee Loke

Risk of heart attack or stroke, or high blood pressure for regularly taking ibuprofen (NSAID), according to British Medical Journal. For OTC medicine for fever, pain, go for Tylenol,  the safest. Thought this may be good to know, for those who do not yet. If you are one of those who already know, have some courtesy not to brag, OK? Thanks.

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Fred

I see an increased chance of a stroke as a positive.

OceanBeach92107

Swee Loke wrote:

Risk of heart attack or stroke, or high blood pressure for regularly taking ibuprofen (NSAID), according to British Medical Journal. For OTC medicine for fever, pain, go for Tylenol,  the safest. Thought this may be good to know, for those who do not yet. If you are one of those who already know, have some courtesy not to brag, OK? Thanks.


Have some courtesy to provide a link to the source of your information.

Thanks!

AndyHCMC

Th story I found had mixed results


Should you be worried about ibuprofen causing heart failure?

A new has shown a link between heart failure and a class of painkillers that includes ibuprofen. The story has received widespread news coverage, much of which sounds quite alarming.

For most people, particularly the under-65s and those without heart problems, the answer is no. The study showed that the risk is still very small for most people. Most people under 65 are not at risk of heart failure unless they have heart problems already.

The research suggests that the increase in risk is about 37.5 admissions for heart failure per 10,000 person years – a relatively small number.

What’s more, these drugs are already well-known to be linked to heart failure, heart attacks and strokes. Most doctors already avoid prescribing them to people with these issues. And concerns about these drugs apply mostly to people who take them on a daily basis rather than for an occasional headache.

What did the research find?
This large study looked at the health records of more than 8 million patients, with an average age of 77, and whether they had used non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as ibuprofen, naproxen and diclofenac.

How was this story covered in the media?
The story was covered widely and the headlines were alarming. “Ibuprofen link to heart failure”; “Common painkillers linked to increased risk of heart failure”; “Taking ibuprofen could raise heart risk by a fifth”;  “Painkillers like ibuprofen may raise risk of hospital admission for heart failure”.

Much of the news coverage did not make it clear that the link between NSAIDs and increased heart risk is already well-known.

Although there were some exceptions, overall the coverage failed to stress that the results found in a group of elderly patients may not apply to younger patients.

Fred

This is a perfect example of newspapers hyping a story to sell their rags. This sort of rubbish is why, at the age of 11, I realised newspapers lie to you .. or at least vary the truth to get you to buy their dodgy comics.

OceanBeach92107

Fred wrote:

This is a perfect example of newspapers hyping a story to sell their rags. This sort of rubbish is why, at the age of 11, I realised newspapers lie to you .. or at least vary the truth to get you to buy their dodgy comics.


Click bait

Jlgarbutt

OceanBeach92107 wrote:
Fred wrote:

This is a perfect example of newspapers hyping a story to sell their rags. This sort of rubbish is why, at the age of 11, I realised newspapers lie to you .. or at least vary the truth to get you to buy their dodgy comics.


Click bait


Every drug or pharamceutical has side effects and given an underlying medical condition can be bad for you. Nurofen(UK) brand of Ibuprofen is a commly used over the counter medication for headaches and has on its list of possible side effects.... may cause headaches

OceanBeach92107

Jlgarbutt wrote:
OceanBeach92107 wrote:
Fred wrote:

This is a perfect example of newspapers hyping a story to sell their rags. This sort of rubbish is why, at the age of 11, I realised newspapers lie to you .. or at least vary the truth to get you to buy their dodgy comics.


Click bait


Everg drug or pharamceutical has side effects and given an underlying medical condition can be bad for you. Nurofen(UK) brand of Ibuprofen is a commly used over the counter medication for headaches and has on its list of possible side effects.... may cause headaches


A perfect headline for clickbait:

"Ibuprofen Can Cause Headaches"

;)

Swee Loke

@Oceanbeach92107:
Please, and all, see link below:

AndyHCMC

Study :-  with an average age of 77    who took it in last 2 weeks 19% higher risk.


The research suggests that the increase in risk is about 37.5 admissions for heart failure per 10,000 person years – a relatively small number.

So .375% for the rest of population without under lying heart problems.

Swee Loke

At the end of the day, we are talking minimising risks for those considered elderly, who already have some underlying problems with their health. And if no one advises them (if not done regular check ups) and they continue taking certain NSaids, then their propensity to get those fatal conditions will increase greatly. Medical and pharma research is continuous, and new knowledge, emerges almost every day...

SimCityAT

I'm not sure what this is all about, old people often have strokes and heart attacks.

But those that I know old and young have regular checkups.

OceanBeach92107

I think they've got the studies all wrong.

Older people who are taking Nsaids are overwhelmingly doing so because they have some form of arthritis.

I believe arthritis increases your risk of heart failure and stroke and such problems.

It just so happens that almost all of them are taking Nsaids.

AndyHCMC

SimCityAT wrote:

I'm not sure what this is all about, old people often have strokes and heart attacks.

But those that I know old and young have regular checkups.


it's like Fred said it's just click bait, this knowledge is not new info its been around since turn of the century 2005 or so.

Kurterino

Well Tylenol (Paracetamol) isn’t without risks either: use too much of it and it can cause liver failure, and I think that’s fatal. Recently Germany considered making it prescription only, because of a number of deaths, but I don’t know if they followed through. 
The problem with OTC painkillers is that even 
if they don’t work well for a particular problem, it’s not easy to get something stronger, hence some people just take more of the same.

SimCityAT

In Germany like Austria, you can only buy medicine at pharmacies. When bought you are asked questions and are only allowed to buy certain amounts.

CHN90

Fred wrote:

I see an increased chance of a stroke as a positive.


It all depends on which end!  ;)

CHN90

Most people just do not realize how bad NSAIDs are when taking on a regular basis. Safest way for chronic pain relief is routine acetaminophen and NSAID prn. Naproxen appears to have the least cardiovascular side effect. Also, a more recent study has advised again taking a baby ASA as a primary cardiovascular and/or colon CA prevention due to increase risk of GI bleed.

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