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RDT9021

First and foremost, I am extremely grateful this site exists and really look forward to getting to know some like minded adventurous people. Who knows,, I may have a Chang with you someday......As the title says, I am looking to move to Pattaya with my family. I (M42), wife (F36) Daughter (F15) and son (M1) would be moving there and hopefully able to stay. I am however overwhelmed by how the process works, especially when it comes to VISAS. I am 42 but, retired with a military pension. My wife has a VA disability pension and our daughter is already homeschooled as will be our son. I know I can't get a retiree visa until 50 but, what option should I take since we won't be working but aren't old enough to be considered for the retirement visa. Border runs/Visa runs with a family of 4 would get pretty daunting. Thoughts? Ideas? Anyone else been in my situation?

Jonas Jämtestam

I understand your situation,



Same me 45 years old and also have pension, and live in Thailand Phuket.


Like you say the 50 - years roule for reciving retirement-VISA.



Until then, the less expensive (approx 50-100 USdollar/person) VISA is the 90 days Long-Stay VISA for your family, before you move to Thailand. With this visa you and your family will RENEW the visa for 90 day true the IMMIGRATION office for 90 days for 1900 Bath/person/ Totaly 180 days./person.



Otherwise is to fix the simple 60 days tourist VISA (less then 50 US dollar/person) before coming to Thailand , then you renew VISA for 30 days 1900Bath/person at the immigration office. Totaly 90 days/person.



Then after this 180 or 90 days you MUST do VISA-RUN, and before the VISA-RUN you fix a new LONG STAY VISA or TOURIST VISA otherwise without any VISA you only will recive at the border a arrival visa of only 30 days or if you do visa-run by flight you recive 45 days. The Thai border by land nowdays fee you 1300Bath/person for get the arrival stamp.



My last experience I did VISA-RUN at the border to Malaysia in Sathun, this was the 17th april 2023. And i took the bus from Koh Lanta to Sathun and from Sathun a tuc-tuc to the border cross and no problem at all. At the border I recived the arrival VISA only 30 days for 1300 Bath that i later can renew att immigration office for 30 days more for 1900Bath.



That i dont think otherwise then there will not be no problem for your family to do VISA-RUN at border by land, and also there is many company who offer this VISA-RUN service.



A remeber note: if you do VISA RUN by flight , more the often the flight company demands you to have booked returns tickets or exit ticket before border the flight to Thailand.



Hope this information will help you.



Sincerely


Jonas Jämtestam


Sweden

Leeds forever!

I understand your situation,

Same me 45 years old and also have pension, and live in Thailand Phuket.

Like you say the 50 - years roule for reciving retirement-VISA.


Until then, the less expensive (approx 50-100 USdollar/person) VISA is the 90 days Long-Stay VISA for your family, before you move to Thailand. With this visa you and your family will RENEW the visa for 90 day true the IMMIGRATION office for 90 days for 1900 Bath/person/ Totaly 180 days./person.


Otherwise is to fix the simple 60 days tourist VISA (less then 50 US dollar/person) before coming to Thailand , then you renew VISA for 30 days 1900Bath/person at the immigration office. Totaly 90 days/person.


Then after this 180 or 90 days you MUST do VISA-RUN, and before the VISA-RUN you fix a new LONG STAY VISA or TOURIST VISA otherwise without any VISA you only will recive at the border a arrival visa of only 30 days or if you do visa-run by flight you recive 45 days. The Thai border by land nowdays fee you 1300Bath/person for get the arrival stamp.


My last experience I did VISA-RUN at the border to Malaysia in Sathun, this was the 17th april 2023. And i took the bus from Koh Lanta to Sathun and from Sathun a tuc-tuc to the border cross and no problem at all. At the border I recived the arrival VISA only 30 days for 1300 Bath that i later can renew att immigration office for 30 days more for 1900Bath.


That i dont think otherwise then there will not be no problem for your family to do VISA-RUN at border by land, and also there is many company who offer this VISA-RUN service.


A remeber note: if you do VISA RUN by flight , more the often the flight company demands you to have booked returns tickets or exit ticket before border the flight to Thailand.


Hope this information will help you.


Sincerely

Jonas Jämtestam

Sweden
-@Jonas Jämtestam

You can not extend a 90 days Non-immigrant O visa at immigration. If you're living in Thailand you should know that. You can only extend the 30 days visa exempt or the 60 days tourist visa another 30 days.

Sainsard

@RDT9021

Hi i can’t help with visas but why Pattaya in particular with kids ? Crowded and dirty city designed for old farangs who likes bars and girls … Ugly place !

RDT9021

@Sainsard it's where I've been and I enjoyed it. But, im open to suggestions.

Leeds forever!

@RDT9021
Hi i can’t help with visas but why Pattaya in particular with kids ? Crowded and dirty city designed for old farangs who likes bars and girls … Ugly place !
-@Sainsard

Stay away from this website if you're coming with useless nonsense.

Leeds forever!

First and foremost, I am extremely grateful this site exists and really look forward to getting to know some like minded adventurous people. Who knows,, I may have a Chang with you someday......As the title says, I am looking to move to Pattaya with my family. I (M42), wife (F36) Daughter (F15) and son (M1) would be moving there and hopefully able to stay. I am however overwhelmed by how the process works, especially when it comes to VISAS. I am 42 but, retired with a military pension. My wife has a VA disability pension and our daughter is already homeschooled as will be our son. I know I can't get a retiree visa until 50 but, what option should I take since we won't be working but aren't old enough to be considered for the retirement visa. Border runs/Visa runs with a family of 4 would get pretty daunting. Thoughts? Ideas? Anyone else been in my situation?
-@RDT9021

Sorry,but living in Thailand long term with a family when younger than 50 years old won't work in the long run. Doing border runs (it's not a visa run) with a family isn't something to recommend, and you can only do 2 border runs per calendar year.

RDT9021

@Leeds forever! I'm sure it will be difficult but, im sure its possible (may have to get a English teaching gig). The thing is we have nothing but time and a pretty solid monthly income, so the time and money won't be an issue.


Also, I very much enjoyed my time in Leeds. I lived in Leeds and Harrogate for roughly 5 years. It was a pretty exciting place, weather sucked but, I certainly enjoyed the people and the nightlife.

joegerardi

@RDT9021 I would think the Elite visa would be your only option, You essentially PAY for a visa, but it could work for your family. Download LINE onto your phone, as that's how most people in Thailand communicate with each other. My ID is JHOPHIS. I've only lived here a year, but would be happy to answer any questions that I can. There are also many facebook groups, just search for pattaya or Pattaya expat and see,


Good luck, it's a wonderful Kingdom.

gomloke

I also would not recommend Pattaya for a family.  I’m hesitant to recommend other places, I think you should do a little more traveling with your family here and find some other nice places. 


On the retirement visa, even if you wait until you are 50, will that help the rest of your family with long term visa?  I’m kinda curious if anyone knows the answer to that.


Sam

Sainsard

@Leeds forever!

non sense for you !

Pattaya is not a city for families with teenagers . Great for old pumpoi farangs

WiredTight

@RDT9021

12 years ago I was in your same shoes, when I decided to Retire (minus the Wife and Kids...LoL) . Most people think the biggest hurdle to moving overseas is the money; I tend to disagree...it's the VISA angle the will determine where you live.

Thailand used to be a very friendly for VISA-Runners, this has changed, For the average retiree...the 50 year retirement is the only option that is still relatively easy to get. Although I'm not advocating abusing the Thailand visa rules, a visa agent might be able to put together some sort of workable scenario...for a price. 

Perhaps you should look into the Philippines (very easy 59 day tourist visa extensions), Malaysia (90 day tourist visa), Cambodia/Vietnam (I was told before Covid it was pretty easy to apply for a 1 year Business Visa),

If you would like further info...please PM me.

jayrozzetti23

...Cambodia/Vietnam (I was told before Covid it was pretty easy to apply for a 1 year Business Visa),
If you would like further info...please PM me.
-@WiredTight



Cambodia, yes; Vietnam, no longer


Head over to their respective forums for more info rather than going off topic...


Cambodia forum:

/forum/viewforum.php?id=141



Vietnam forum:

/forum/viewforum.php?id=219

Bigrad Wolf

@Sainsard it's where I've been and I enjoyed it. But, im open to suggestions.
-@RDT9021

May I suggest either Jomtien or Wongamat instead of the girly bars in central?   Both would still be close to Central to enjoy it, has better beaches and quieter.   

JayEsCee

North Pattaya, Jomtien Beach, or further south than Jomtien to Phrachup Khiri Khan are better than Central Pattaya. Cha-am to the north in Phetchaburi is also better for families.

Leeds forever!

North Pattaya, Jomtien Beach, or further south than Jomtien to Phrachup Khiri Khan are better than Central Pattaya. Cha-am to the north in Phetchaburi is also better for families.
-@JayEsCee

I don't know what you mean by North Pattaya. I think you're talking about Naklua, which isn't Pattaya. Naklua is located in north Banglamung district,Pattaya in central and then Jomtien in south. You do know that Cha-Am is almost due west of Pattaya on the other side of the Gulf and Prachuap Khiri Khan is south of Petchaburi where Cha-Am is located? Your bearings are way off.

Bigrad Wolf

^ You're right.    It starts with Thailand -- then Chon buri province - then Bang Lamung District - then Nakuea sub-district  -  then this sub-district breaks out to north, central and south areas, which are Naklua, Pattaya City and Jomtien, respectively. 

Leeds forever!

^ You're right.  It starts with Thailand -- then Chon buri province - then Bang Lamung District - then Nakuea sub-district - then this sub-district breaks out to north, central and south areas, which are Naklua, Pattaya City and Jomtien, respectively.
-@Bigrad Wolf

No,Naklua is no sub-district. And Banglamung is just one out of many districts in Chonburi. The sub-district where Naklua,Pattaya and Jomtien are located is Nongprue. Try to understand that I'm living in Jomtien and I've been here many years and before that in Pattaya.

JayEsCee

@Leeds forever!


I was listing off places that he might like better than Central Pattaya. I wasn't planning on giving him a virtual tour.


North Pattaya Road runs through Na Kluea. It connects the North Pattaya Bus Terminal to Dolphin Circle near The Dusit Thani Pattaya hotel. As you come into Pattaya there are signs which read how to get to Pattaya Nuea (North Pattaya) so the Thais do call it Pattaya Nuea or North Pattaya. If you want to call it Na Kluea that is fine with me. That is a district there. Many places there are called North Pattaya this or that, like the North Pattaya Bus Terminal, North Pattaya Road, OZO North Pattaya, etc.


Cha-am is on the Gulf of Thailand coast about 20 minutes drive north of Hua-Hin Beach in Petchaburi Province. I have driven it many times. When I was saying Cha-am is to the north I was referring to north of Prachuap Khiri Khan, not north of Pattaya. The photo of my wife in my profile is at The Venezia Theme Park about half way between Cha-am and Hua-Hin.

Leeds forever!

@Leeds forever!
I was listing off places that he might like better than Central Pattaya. I wasn't planning on giving him a virtual tour.

North Pattaya Road runs through Na Kluea. It connects the North Pattaya Bus Terminal to Dolphin Circle near The Dusit Thani Pattaya hotel. As you come into Pattaya there are signs which read how to get to Pattaya Nuea (North Pattaya) so the Thais do call it Pattaya Nuea or North Pattaya. If you want to call it Na Kluea that is fine with me. That is a district there. Many places there are called North Pattaya this or that, like the North Pattaya Bus Terminal, North Pattaya Road, OZO North Pattaya, etc.

Cha-am is on the Gulf of Thailand coast about 20 minutes drive north of Hua-Hin Beach in Petchaburi Province. I have driven it many times. When I was saying Cha-am is to the north I was referring to north of Prachuap Khiri Khan, not north of Pattaya. The photo of my wife in my profile is at The Venezia Theme Park about half way between Cha-am and Hua-Hin.
-@JayEsCeesane rhing

I been living in Jomtien and Pattaya many years and in other places in Thailand. There's nothing I don't know about these areas. You don't even live here and you're just a rookie in Thailand. No one gives advices to people with families to stay in north Pattaya.They prefer Naklua or Jomtien. And  Naklua is not north Pattaya,get it? It's the area in north Banglamung north of north Pattaya. And north Pattaya and Pattaya Nua is the same thing, Pattaya Nua means north Pattaya in Thai. Naklua is not a district, Banglamung is and Nongprue is a sub-district in Banglamung. Did no one tell you what a district is? Read again what you said in your earlier post. You wrote that Prachuap Khiri Khan was further south of Pattaya, but it's on the other side of the Gulf. Next time,read what you have written before you submit the comment.

JayEsCee

@Leeds forever!
I was listing off places that he might like better than Central Pattaya. I wasn't planning on giving him a virtual tour.

North Pattaya Road runs through Na Kluea. It connects the North Pattaya Bus Terminal to Dolphin Circle near The Dusit Thani Pattaya hotel. As you come into Pattaya there are signs which read how to get to Pattaya Nuea (North Pattaya) so the Thais do call it Pattaya Nuea or North Pattaya. If you want to call it Na Kluea that is fine with me. That is a district there. Many places there are called North Pattaya this or that, like the North Pattaya Bus Terminal, North Pattaya Road, OZO North Pattaya, etc.

Cha-am is on the Gulf of Thailand coast about 20 minutes drive north of Hua-Hin Beach in Petchaburi Province. I have driven it many times. When I was saying Cha-am is to the north I was referring to north of Prachuap Khiri Khan, not north of Pattaya. The photo of my wife in my profile is at The Venezia Theme Park about half way between Cha-am and Hua-Hin.
-@JayEsCeesane rhing
I been living in Jomtien and Pattaya many years and in other places in Thailand. There's nothing I don't know about these areas. You don't even live here and you're just a rookie in Thailand. No one gives advices to people with families to stay in north Pattaya.They prefer Naklua or Jomtien. And Naklua is not north Pattaya,get it? It's the area in north Banglamung north of north Pattaya. And north Pattaya and Pattaya Nua is the same thing, Pattaya Nua means north Pattaya in Thai. Naklua is not a district, Banglamung is and Nongprue is a sub-district in Banglamung. Did no one tell you what a district is? Read again what you said in your earlier post. You wrote that Prachuap Khiri Khan was further south of Pattaya, but it's on the other side of the Gulf. Next time,read what you have written before you submit the comment.
-@Leeds forever!

Again you have no idea what you are talking about. I typed in Na Kluea on Goggle map and it gave me North Pattaya Road. Na Kluea (not Naklua) is the area in the northern part of Pattaya City. In matter of fact, North Pattaya Road runs into Dolphin Circle from the East and as you go through Dolphin Circle it turns into Na Kluea 24 Alley. Therefore, it is basically the same road on opposite sides of Dolphin Circle.


They use North Pattaya and Pattaya Nua interchangeably. For example, on North Pattaya Road you have the Health Land Spa Pattaya Nua just a few blocks away from North Pattaya Bus Terminal. They use both names. I was using both names because the signs in Thai read

พัทยาเหนือ which transliterates into Pattaya Nua or translates into English as North Pattaya. That is why I was using both.


Also, I have been in Thailand since 1993 so I have been here longer than you. I wrote "Cha-am is on the Gulf of Thailand coast about 20 minutes drive north of Hua-Hin Beach in Petchaburi Province." I was comparing Cha-am to Prachuap not to Pattaya at that time. Also, since Cha-am is southwest of Pattaya across the Gulf of Thailand and Prachuap Khiri Khan is south of Cha-am that means Prachuap Khiri Khan is further south than Pattaya. So what don't you understand?

Bigrad Wolf

^ You're right. It starts with Thailand -- then Chon buri province - then Bang Lamung District - then Nakuea sub-district - then this sub-district breaks out to north, central and south areas, which are Naklua, Pattaya City and Jomtien, respectively.
-@Bigrad Wolf
No,Naklua is no sub-district. And Banglamung is just one out of many districts in Chonburi. The sub-district where Naklua,Pattaya and Jomtien are located is Nongprue. Try to understand that I'm living in Jomtien and I've been here many years and before that in Pattaya.
-@Leeds forever!

I did not say "Naklua" is a sub-district.  I said "Nakuea".  Difference in spelling.  The Nong Prue sub-district is east of "Nakuea". sub-district 


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Bigrad Wolf

They use North Pattaya and Pattaya Nua interchangeably. For example, on North Pattaya Road you have the Health Land Spa Pattaya Nua just a few blocks away from North Pattaya Bus Terminal. They use both names. I was using both names because the signs in Thai read
พัทยาเหนือ which transliterates into Pattaya Nua or translates into English as North Pattaya. That is why I was using both.

-@JayEsCee

Hi JayEsCee, I understand what you are saying about seeing labels of "North Pattaya" in Naklua area.  But I have yet to see a post mail address using "North Pattaya".  Instead what I see is they use the technical name of the area  "Naklua", which is what Leeds I think is saying.   It's like the label "Central Pattaya", the technical name showing in the post mail address is "Pattaya City".

JayEsCee

I think areas and names of areas change all the time. They redo districts in the US every so often for elections and voting patterns. The state legislatures do this every decade or so. I would think this is similar in Thailand. Government offices, buildings, and post codes would change after officials rename or redistrict an area.


I'm not saying this is what happened in the area called Na Kluea. I was saying there are a lot of things there called North Pattaya or Pattaya Nua so people there refer to that area as such. North Pattaya Road is written in Thai as ถนนพัทยาเหนือ which translates exactly as I was saying and it is the road going east out of Dolphin Circle. Na Kluea is written in Thai as นาเà¸à¸¥à¸·à¸­ and the road going north out of Dolphin Circle is called ถนนนาเà¸à¸¥à¸·à¸­ (Na Kluea Road). The road going west out of Dolphin Circle is called Na Kluea Soi 24.


Leeds was saying; "I don't know what you mean by North Pattaya. I think you're talking about Naklua, which isn't Pattaya." This is what I took issue with and started this entire discussion. How can he say he knows everything about Pattaya and not know that the road there is called North Pattaya Road? And clearly North Pattaya Road is in the area just North of Pattaya City a.k.a. Central Pattaya.

JayEsCee

You have to realize that over time things change. 60 years ago the areas of Jomtien, Pattaya City, and Na Kluea were separate and distinct areas. Now the areas have all grown together and merged into 1 metropolitan area called Pattaya with Jomtien now being known as South Pattaya, Pattaya City now being called Central Pattaya, and Na Kluea now being called North Pattaya. Even the government realizes this and named one of the major roads in Na Kluea as ถนนพัทยาเหนือ (North Pattaya Road) with streets signs saying just that. So the government themselves recognize that area as North Pattaya now. The post codes may lag behind and still be called by their old names, but eventually that will change too and will be renamed to match what people in those places call it.

Michaela Wild+Free

@RDT9021

Hi,

Did you move to Pattaya in the end?

We are a homeschooling family. Just moving to Pattaya from the Abu Dhabi and wondered if you would like to connect or could connect me to any useful network in the area.  Trying to find my feet.

Our son is 4 yrs.

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