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From latest reports it would appear that the vehicle in which the Americans were travelling crossed over the central reservation and struck a minibus heading north;

Horrible day on the roads here. The other accident with apparently聽 6 deaths were coming from a robbery.聽 The found drugs,聽 gun, money and tools for breakins in the car.

I do not know how people drive in Santo Domingo. Crazy!

Driving in Santo Domingo is actually safer than driving in many parts of the country. there is a level of driving skill which far exceeds that of those driving in the campo.

It may seem crazy but once you get your bearings, know the best routes, know where to be on the road, anticipate other drivers moves and are tolerant of taxi drivers and traffic congestion, it ain't so bad.

Some of the cross country routes are absolutely nuts and very dangerous in my opinion and the quality of driving on the North Coast is abysmal.

You mentioned you drove from Cabarete to the capital and it was tough. Yes it is and I drove that route 4 times a week a couple of years back. Autopista Duarte is dangerous. If you drove from Navarete to Puerto Plata that is bad too with the alternative through Moca and over the mountains being tolerable but with the risk of stupid overtaking on blind sections. Other routes I consider very dangerous are from Bani to Azua and the section beyond to the San Juan fork and the road from San Fransico to Nagua plus Autopista Las Americas. The drive from Villa Mella to Monte Plata where the other accident happened is stressful too in places.

And you should try driving around places like Bonao, Cotui or Moca with motos and pasolas everywhere!

I just don't understand why slow moving vehicles do not stay in the right lane when available.

And the moped riders are looking to get blind sided.

Slow drivers and truckers do not care that they are blocking traffic.聽 The laws have changed to fine them but no one cares!聽

Motos and pasolas are DANGEROUS and they break the laws constantly.

It's a crap shoot every time I drive thru La Romana.

Motos聽 and pasolas with no lights going the wrong way at night, no one stops at the lights. I have learned to drive聽 and survive like a Dominican for now....

I'll be there for the first time in May, not looking forward to driving after all I've read here. I was in Acapulco Mexico and the driving there was terrifying. Small cars, mostly taxis, would literally bounce off each other changing lanes and parking.
Lots of hand gestures and yelling, but no-one ever stopped. I don't know how anyone could have a nice car there....

Sure hope it isn't worse than that on the North Coast.

This country is Defensive Driving at its highest at ALL times. I enjoy driving and like others, have driven extensively throughout North America, Britain, parts of Europe, the Balkans, and Cyprus. If you fail to expect or watch for the unexpected, then you set yourself up for problems. That includes other drivers and watching road conditions. Once you understand how drivers think and potentially drive, along with expecting poor to deplorable road conditions in some areas, you can be safer. But the key is to drive defensively. I have no issues driving here, but that's me. There are worse places to drive - believe me.

I've met at least one expat that LIKES to drive in the DR, saying "I like the challenge".聽
I've experienced driving in the East, namely Nepal, and other industrial countries, and I describe DR driving as a mix of Western and Eastern cultures. In the West we have lanes and signals and order, and traffic tickets. In the East it is more of a concept of "flow", as in flowing like a river. Need to exit? Just started pushing your way in that direction!聽 DR roads are a horrible mix of those two things. LOL

I no longer enjoy driving in the UK when I visit.

On the motorways there are speed cameras everywhere and you find them on the side roads too.

To drive into central London is a nightmare with bus lanes use regulated with cameras.

Oh for the days when one could enjoy driving at speed around twisty lanes and roads in the lovely British summer. You can't even think of a pint of bitter on ones travels

Driving in DR can be enjoyable on certain roads. i don't enjoy the multi lane autopistas except the Santo Domingo ring road which is still quiet. I do enjoy very much driving some of the roads in the interior such as the roads from Yamasa to Cevicos, Maimon to Cotui, Piedra Blanca to Rancho Arriba and San Jose which are often quiet with wonderful scenery all around.

Driving in Santo Domingo is like any other city with so much awareness needed and a defensive posture. But one needs to be firm and keep your nose ahead of the next driver to secure your lane and where you plan to go. I can understand drivers used to western rules being hopelessly lost and confused in such a 'no rules' environment.

Driving with motos is however the biggest challenge. They rule and if you hit them you are on the losing end of the investigation whatever the facts. Treat them with respect.

I always wonder .....

Are they (DR) bad drivers or really good but ignorant of road rules
Might be both

If you watch... you'll see people do crazy wacky things
BUT
When they have near misses - it's inches or fractions thereof
I have seen it too many times to say (100%) - It's luck

The biggest fear I have is not the drivers...
but the mechanical state of the vehicles.

Any one could fail at an inopportune time - like when coming at ME!!!

I think the roads reflect life in general in the DR - a lot more freedom (i.e. no road cameras and pesky rules), but at a cost. A wee bit of me DOES like to drive in DR for the adventurous challenge. There I said it. Hah ha

The first time I drove in DR we were pulling out of the SD airport and within a quarter mile I had someone COMING STRAIGHT AT ME!聽 They were passing a bus. I slowed down, sort of expecting this, sighed, and mumbled "game on". Later in that trip I found myself nose to nose with a giant tour bus at an intersection in Las Terrenas, at night. I looked up at the driver, he stared at me and, needless to say...he wouldn't budge. I threw it in reverse and backed in to the intersection to let him through.聽 I'm sure you all have a lot of like stories.

I no longer enjoy driving in the UK due to the abundance of speed cameras on motorways and side roads, along with the challenges of navigating central London's bus lanes.

In contrast, driving in the Dominican Republic offers moments of enjoyment, especially on serene roads like the Santo Domingo ring road and interior routes with beautiful scenery.

in Santo Domingo is similar to city driving elsewhere, requiring vigilance and assertiveness. However, sharing the road with motorcycles is a significant challenge, as they have the right of way and any collision typically places you at a disadvantage in investigations.

Sure聽 it may be a b difficult, the driving but nowhere near impossible

My first time driving in DR was scary but I figured if I can drive a million dollar armoured vehicle in the military game on.

My biggest concern is the moto bikes they have no concern for their lives or others and one day my fear is one will F around and find out the hard way and any legal issues that would come .

You can rest assured that one day one will try.聽

@planner

Yes - unfortunately a very true statement. Even now as I am about to become mobile on a wee scooter for just around Moca where the traffic, while nowhere near as horrendous as in larger centers, still has it's share of idiots. As an aside, while in Cyprus with the UN, we carried miniature baseball bats & called them "puppy pounders"聽 which were sometimes needed when driving jeeps due to the number of homeless/wild dogs that were overly agressive - dogs here are pretty passive here but not some riders/drivers that figure the road is theirs once they are on it. However, driving defensively and keeping ones cool knowing that ANYTHING can happen & just might will make driving here much better.....

Driving defensively aggressive and keeping your cool let's you survive driving in some places here. 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ

I consider myself an adapted defensive macho driver but I think RockyM mentioned in another recent (driving in the DR) thread that the DR has worlds highest deathtoll in traffic.

I conveniently ignored that untill I did a search and found that it is indeed right. I guess knowing these facts will make me even more cautious next time I drive:

Numbers:

It looks Dominicans are also good at ignoring facts; this is a study about their beliefs and perceptions of road crashes (It is a long read but interesting)

"Con Dios" is just not enough for driving in the DR...

All true!

Slow and steady guys ,馃殫鈥︷煕�

slow and steady鈥︹�︷煔�

reposting the 3rd link as it didn't work:

That study is worth reading.聽 Interesting gaps between reality and perception!

I'm trying to get myself psyched up to drive. Not far. Just from Sousa to Puerto Plata and to Cabarete. It's ridiculous! Lol...I drove one time, from the town side of Sousa to the Playero side, and up the hill. Good Lord. You'd of thought I'd made it to Santo Domingo 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ I think I'm going to try. I'm just going to be a tortuga muy lenta. And I'll have my bestie riding shotgun/lookout!

Its equally dangerous to drive too slow as it is too fast!聽 聽You need to be assertive here to get anywhere.

Ok. I'll work on my vroom, vroom! Me and my ancient Camry!

There you go!

@Brewpub56

聽 聽 you鈥檒l be fine Rt 5 is uneventful 鈥β� you鈥檒l have to navigate the detour by the bridge , just go slow because of the potholes聽 but once back on Rt 5 its all straight driving until the circle by Jumbo in PP 鈥�. By then you should have the hang of it鈥�.馃殫 weeee

Oh yes its all fine,聽 well except the detour,聽 except the idiot motorcycles trying to cut you off, except the potholes, except if it rains hard and oh yes except if its dark......

feeling a lot of negative vibe s planner , 馃��

throw caution to the wind , try to enjoy the ride ,聽 relax and remember your in paridise 鈥︷煂答煆濓笍馃尨

I have driven here 20 years. I have been hit by 3 motorcycles and one presidente beer truck!聽 I am very experienced at driving here and wear no rose colored glasses.聽

if you can pick your route and time to coincide with little traffic. A Sunday morning around 7 am is probably the best time. Not going to help with the pot holes but very few trucks and motorcycles out at that time.

I agree early Sunday mornings are the best.聽 Late Sunday afternoon can be full of drivers who are already drinking.