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@JohnnyPT Are the requirements based on whole months, or aggregated days?聽 Ie is 8 non consecutive months the same as 8*31 (248) days in Portugal within the 24 month period.

Thank you for your help

Hi Steve,

As written in post #21 in this thread, in the first 2 years, you must stay at least 6 months consecutively each year,

聽 聽OR

a total of 16 months (= 8 months 脳 2 years ), if you come and go whenever you want, i.e聽 聽 聽16 脳 30 = 480 days, within the first 24 month period.

@JohnnyPT that is not quite accurate. The law states the total period one can't stay OUT of the country and not IN the country and it is not per year, but per resident permit, which is now 2 years.

One can stay OUT of the country for 4 months in one year and 2 month in the another year for example. Or leave and return for short periods at the maximum of 8 months in 24.

Thanks both, my key point was that the calculation is really by days, not months.

@Nia,

Thank you for your accuracy. Is there another grammatical preposition besides IN/OUT, i.e. does the non-binary concept also apply now in this context ...? With so much progress, I'm already somewhat lost ...

Regarding the hypothesis of consecutive months, the 6 months apply in each of the years of the residence permit. In the other case of non-consecutive months, it is the 2 years of the residence permit, 24 months, as we both mentioned here.

@fburak1878 Hi, I'm so happy to see someone ask cause I'm in the same situation next month. May I ask did you go through your SEF appointment using with using a temporary Booking or Airbnb address?

@Murphy,

When you register on this forum, you must be accurate regarding your own nationality. Are you Irish as your profile states, British or which nationality?

The requirement is a 12 month contract registered at the portuguese tax office.

@JohnnyPT Hi, I am Irish as I registered. Regarding the adequate accommodation you mentioned that the short term rental as airbnb and booking are available, are they? I plan to buy a real estate property after SEF appointment. There is no reason to rent a whole year for me. Thank you!

@Murphy,

Being Irish, you do not fit into this thread, because as EU citizen your requirements are different. You don't need to have a interview with SEF. Please read this one:

Registration Certificate for Citizens of the EU/EEA/Switzerland

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Best Regards

@steve13ab1 Sorry I didn't notice that, I didn't change to an Irish passport yet, this may take a few more years for me, but a long-term resident permit owner now.

Next month we have an appointment with SEF, so in a few months I'll be able to answer the question of "a short-term stay still valid". As far as I understand the most important thing is to get registered in the so-called junta, or the municipality, not the longevity of the rental agreement. But everything is ambiguous. Everyone can and should try sending an e-mail to SEF, and ask personally - they always reply back.

@fburak1878,

The registration in the parish council/municipality is for EU residents. Non-EU citizens must be registered with the SEF, and must have a residence permit approved by them. This is not ambiguous at all...

As I've been told by non-EU residents, when you have a contract, e.g. thru Flatio, and with the contract when you go to the junta and got registered, that's enough for the SEF. They said that they had done it. Maybe I'm mistaken.

@johnnyPT

Hello Johnny, D7 initial聽 visa form is only need to be filled and a printed copy of it.? and no 2d barcode copies needed right? I can't聽 find anywhere to fill it electronically in order to get that 2d barcode.

Thank you so much for helping all the peeps 馃檶馃檶馃檶

Great regards

Qi

@mrliumad,

I do not understand your question. The form is this (3rd one):

(D7 visa & others) - Minimum Resources

UPDATING for 2024:

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According to several visa experiences shared by some members in this forum, the minimum of the minimums currently accepted are:

these values multiplied by 1.5 or 2 (depending on the country of origin).

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Minimum Resources: Proof that the applicant has the minimum income provided by law to enable him to reside in Portugal for a period of not less than 12 months, such as:

First adult (applicant):

聽 100% of the current minimum wage (820鈧�) = 9,840 鈧�/year;

Second adult (spouse or partner):

聽 50% of the current minimum wage (410鈧�) = 4,920鈧�/year;

Dependant children and young people under 18:

聽 30% of the current minimum wage (246鈧�) = 2,952鈧�/year.

These amounts are just a baseline. You should not restrict your visa application resources to these minimums, so you can be sure that your visa will not be refused.

For the D7 visa, you must prove that you have passive, stable and continuous income over time.

SAVINGS are not considered for the D7 visa.聽 Proof of that monthly passive income is required and this can be from PENSIONS or INVESTMENTS (NET values).

With this visa, you can work, remotely or not. But income from work is not taken into account for this visa.

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Why these minimum values are not enough

BE AWARE of this:

These values have to do with "equality" and "justice" principles. If a government assumes that a foreigner needs a higher monthly income to live in the country, it is being inconsistent with part of its population, by assuming that this value is not enough to live...

This is the rationale of these values/rules, and legally minimum values for a visa must be fixed.

But I can tell you that minimum wage is not enough to pay a significant part of the existing rentals in the main portuguese cities. It is not difficult to reach this conclusion with a simple research of property rentals.

Another issue to consider is that these minimum amounts do not guarantee automatic visa approval. Therefore, the more resources you can prove, the greater is the chance of having the D7 visa approved.

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Minimum wage (2024):

820 eur x 14 months = 11480 eur

11480 eur / 12 months = 956,67 eur

In Portugal, wages are paid 14 times a year.

@funporto

My brother is moving into my purchased house in Portugal. He is applying for a d7 visa. Do i need to make a formal agreement with him for his accommodation with me? He will stay in a room in my home once his visa is approved?

If i do need to make an agreement with him does this have to be notorised at AT?聽 聽It have not registered the property with AL as i do not rent it out.

Any advice will be appreciated.

Regards

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Hi Anna,

As he's your brother, I don't see what's wrong with giving him a letter of comfort for accommodation, regarding his visa.

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If you sign a tenancy agreement, it has to be registered at portaldasfinancas website, with stamp duty paid.

@JohnnyPT

Hi,

I asked a couple of visa fixer firms re the minimum funds requirement and although I meet (from rental income) the regular income for D7 visa they said meeting the minimum finance was not enough.聽 However without committing to their expensive services they wouldn't tell me how much savings I should show to make it most likely to get through.

Get the sense that now property golden visa has gone and it's investment golden more folk with money will be competing for the D7.

Has anyone recently got through and if so would you be willing to share how much savings you had - I can take out some of my private pension early and put in bank account if necessary...

Many thanks!

Hi Toshiro123, Welcome.

The answer is in post #56 in this thread. And it comes from the feedback given here by other members.

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Regards

@JohnnyPT thank you for the response. i found out that as my brother is related i can have a rental agreement drawn up for him to stay with me. This is a free leasing arrangement. it will be notatised by a lawyer verified by his tax representative. There is no stamp duty payable on a legal free leasing agreement and no tax. The lawyer draws up the agreement and i also completr the Term of Responsibility form.聽

Yes i agree that rental agreements are registered an the finance but not in this case.

@mrliumad the application form as i understand should be notarised by a lawyer (commissioner of oaths) in Portugal.

@Fear7474

Hi,

Just wondered if you have to have permanent residence to allow your brother to lease free from you please?聽 A relative recently moved to Portugal and has started the process of gaining residency - just not sure if I have to wait till she gains it before leasing.聽 At the moment they are renting for a year to get an idea of different areas and the market before buying.

Many thanks,

Toshiro123

@Toshiro123 I would be guessing if I answered your question but I can tell you my situation. I own a property where I pay council tax this links me to the house and I have temporary residence under the terms of the withdrawal agreement.聽 I can prove I own the house and have the deeds. I can rent to my brother on a free leasing agreement which is drawn up and notarised by a lawyer. I also sign a term or responsibility form also notarised. My brother has a bank account showing he has funds to support himself for the first twelve months.

If a family member is not yet resident i do not think that would be acceptable?

Many thanks - much appreciated!

Thank you everyone for your responses on this thread, it has been most useful througout my D7 and Porugal residence journey.

Would anyone know or have any experience of changing address after the D7 visa has been granted but before the SEF/AIMA appointment?

I am having to leave the property I have a 12 month contract on, which I used to get my D7 but I am able to move into a friends place in Portugal whilst he returns to the UK.

Would the letter of attestaion from my friend, the owner of the property, and/or a free leasing arrangement be suitable for the SEF/AIMA appointment?

As this accomodation will be different from the one I gained my D7 with I am a bit worried about what documents I would need to get from my friend to provide sufficient 'Evidence that the applicant has adequate accommodation' as stated in article 77.

Thank you all again, this forum and it's memeber have proved invaluable throughout this process!

Good evening,

Thank you everyone for the precious information. The meeting to submit my application in London will be this week and, unfortunately, I still have some questions about the digital nomad visa:

Does any document need to be translated to Portuguese?

Does any document need to legalised with the apostille?

I have read the posts in this group and I still have some doubts regarding the savings in the bank account. Does anyone here have already submitted the application/documents?

'What is the minimum amount of money I need to have in my bank account?'

As my application will be submitted this week (I believe it should the 2023 values be the ones applicable).

According to the Portuguese Law, the 'Work Law' (C贸digo do Trabalho, aprovado

pela Lei n.潞 7/2009, de 12 de fevereiro,) the extra 2 months of payments are 'subsidies' and not 'salaries'. There is a holiday subsidy payable usually in June/July and a Christmas subsidy in November/December. The subsidies are in equivalent amount of the salary but they are not a salary.

Please take a look of the governmental website regarding this matter for better advise as this vague or imprecise聽 as so many other things are:

That states:

'A mandatory requirement for the lodging of a long-term stay visa application is providing proof that the applicant has sufficient means of subsistence to live in Portugal, or that he will be able to aquire such means upon arrival.

The criteria to determine means of subsistence is based on the minimum monthly salary - currently in 2023 - amounting to 760鈧� (PCM Regulatory Decree n.潞 85-A/2022, of the 22th December), net of any social security deductions, with a per capita increase for each family unit as follows:...'

AND

'RESIDENCY (Over 1 year)

Independent or subordinate work purposes

Applicants for residency visas for independent or subordinate work purposes should posses sufficient means of subsistence, in accordance with applicable law. Means of subsistence should cover a period equivalent to the maximum admissible, and can be certified though a work contract or work promise.'

Thank you

Hi BigFish, Welcome.

For the digital nomad visa (D8) you have this thread:

/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1006006

Documents in English do not need to be translated into Portuguese.

Regards

Hi JohnyPT,

Thank you so much for your prompt reply.

Regards

Type of visas

Visa forms: source VFSGlobal / PT Ministry of Foreign Affairs

(PDF doc)

RESIDENCE VISA FOR SUBORDINATE WORK ACTIVITY (D1) - page 30

RESIDENCE VISA FOR INDEPENDENT WORK ACTIVITY OR MIGRANT ENTREPRENEUR (D2) - page 32

RESIDENCE VISA FOR TEACHING PURPOSES, HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND CULTURAL ACTIVITY (D3) - page 34

RESIDENCE VISA FOR RESEARCH, STUDY, STUDENT EXCHANGE, INTERNSHIPS, VOLUNTEER WORK (D4) - page 36

RESIDENCE VISA FOR FAMILY REUNIFICATION (D6) - page 39

RESIDENCE VISA FOR FIXED RESIDENCY FOR RETIREMENT PURPOSES, FOR PEOPLE LIVING OUT FROM PERSONAL REVENUE, FOR RELIGIOUS PURPOSES (D7) - page 42

RESIDENCE VISA FOR THE EXERCISE OF A PROFESSIONAL ACTIVITY DONE REMOTELY-鈥淒IGITAL NOMADS鈥� (D8) -page 44

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR INDEPENDENT WORK PURPOSES (E3) - page 9

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH PURPOSES, ACADEMIC TEACHING PURPOSES, OR HIGHLY QUALIFIED ACTIVITY, FOR LESS THAN 1 YEAR (E4) - page 11

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR AMATEUR SPORTS PURPOSES (E5) - page 13

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR PERIODS OF OVER 3 MONTHS IN EXCEPTIONAL AND WELL FOUNDED CIRCUMSTANCES, NAMELY FOR PROGRAMS OF STUDY IN A CERTIFIED INSTITUITION, STUDENT EXCHANGE, UNPAID PROFESSIONAL INTERNSHIP, VOLUNTEER WORK, PURSUANT TO WTO OBLIGATIONS OR THOSE ARISING FROM CONVENTIONS AND INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS, OR FOR RETIREES OR PEOPLE LIVING OUT FROM INDIVIDUAL REVENUES (E6) - page 15

TEMPORARY STAY VISA TO ACCOMPANY A FAMILY MEMBER UNDERGOING MEDICAL TREATMENT (E7) - page 17

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR SEASONAL WORK PURPOSES FOR A PERIOD OF OVER 90 DAYS (UP TO 270 DAYS) (E8) - page 19

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR ACADEMIC OR PROFESSIONAL TRAINING PURPOSES (E9) - page 21

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR THE EXERCISE OF A PROFESSIONAL ACTIVITY DONE REMOTELY - 鈥淒IGITAL NOMADS鈥� -

Page 23

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR ACCOMPANYING A FAMILY MEMBER APPLYING FOR A RESIDENCE VISA 鈥� page 25

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR EXCEPTIONAL AND WELL FOUNDED CIRCUMSTANCES, NAMELY FOR HOLDERS OF VALID PORTUGUESE RESIDENCE PERMTS THAT HAVE BEEN LOST OR STOLEN, EXPIRED PORTUGUESE RESIDENCE PERMITS THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING RENEWED, OR PORTUGUESE RESIDENCE PERMITS THAT HAVE EXPIRED IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS 鈥� page 27

TEMPORARY STAY VISA FOR YOUTH MOBILITY PURPOSES - page 28

RESIDENCE VISA FOR ACCOMPANYING A FAMILY MEMBER APPLYING FOR A RESIDENCE VISA DF - page 46

RESIDENCY JOB SEEKER VISA - page 48

RESIDENCE PERMIT FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES (ARI/GOLDEN VISA) - page 50

RIGHT TO LIVE IN PORTUGAL OF EU / EEE / ANDORRA / SWITZERLAND NATIONALS AND THEIR FAMILIES - page 51

COMUNIDADE DOS PA脥SES DE L脥NGUA PORTUGUESA (CPLP) MOBILITY AGREEMENT - page 52

MINORS - page 53

TEMPLATE VISA FORM, REQUEST FOR CRIMINAL RECORD ENQUIRY BY THE IMMIGRATION AND BORDER SERVICES (SEF), TERM OF RESPONSIBILITY, CERTIFICATE OF BOARD AND LODGING, LETTER OF CONSENT / PARENTAL AUTHORIZATION FOR CHILDREN UNDER 18 YEARS - page 54

@AdamDR

Hi Adam,

Thanks so much for this! I'm in the middle of preparing my application so it's been very helpful.

The only thing that worried me is saying that you need to leave your hard copy of your passport with them, I have a trip about 2 weeks after my appointment so do you know how long it took for your passport to come back?

Thanks!

@Sophie Waller I'd never recommend leaving your passport. It's not required, you can send it in once approved or bring it by. I always recommend handling it this way.

@steve13ab1 You can google for a schengen calculator which will actually calculate your days for you if you put in your trip dates outside of Portugal. This is the easiest way to be sure you are correctly counting your days and don't run into an issue.

(D7 visa & others) - Minimum Resources

UPDATING for 2025 (post #7 & post #56):

Minimum Resources: Proof that the applicant has the minimum income provided by law to enable him to reside in Portugal for a period of not less than 12 months, such as:

First adult (applicant):

聽 100% of the current minimum wage (870鈧�) = 10,440 鈧�/year;

Second adult (spouse or partner):

聽 50% of the current minimum wage (435鈧�) = 5,220 鈧�/year;

Dependant children and young people under 18:

聽 30% of the current minimum wage (261鈧�) = 3,132 鈧�/year.

These amounts are just a baseline. You should not restrict your visa application resources to these minimums, so you can be sure that your visa will not be refused.

Why these minimum values are not enough?

(Post #56)